IQ Question on teams and matches

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The problem involves a round robin tournament with 11 teams where points are awarded for wins, and the scoring system results in a maximum difference of 8 points between the highest and lowest scores. Additionally, three teams have the same score, and the task is to determine the score of the team ranked fourth.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the total points available in the tournament and how to arrange the scores based on the given constraints. Some suggest calculating the total points from the number of matches, while others explore the implications of the score differences and ties.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to interpret the problem and explore potential scoring arrangements. Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, while others express frustration and seek direct solutions. Multiple interpretations of the scoring system are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention time constraints due to upcoming exams, which may affect their ability to engage deeply with the problem. There is also a focus on ensuring that the repeated scores are correctly accounted for in the overall scoring system.

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Homework Statement



There are 11 teams playing in a round robin way. Winning a match gives one point and loosing a match gives none. There is no draw in the entire series. If the difference between maximum and minimum score is 8 and there are exactly 3 teams whose scores are same. Find out the score of the team which is ranked fourth according to scores if the teams scored equally are ranked the same.



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3. My attempt

I arranged the scores from 9 to 1. and guessed that the answer is 6.
 
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In each round, there are how many possible points that could be won? Multiply this by the total number of rounds, and you will see the total number of points that can be won over the competition, and this might help you arrange the scores.
 
I think the question says that the only repeated score is that where three teams are tied on a score, and otherwise different teams have different scores. Combine this with the spread of 8 points (three possibilities) and the total number of points available to establish all the individual team point scores.
 
Please give me the solution. I have my exams on the 18th and I am frustrated. I don't have time to think.
 
physics kiddy said:
Please give me the solution. I have my exams on the 18th and I am frustrated. I don't have time to think.
Will we also be with when you take your exam ?

Can you explain how you arrived at your answer?
 
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daveb said:
In each round, there are how many possible points that could be won? Multiply this by the total number of rounds, and you will see the total number of points that can be won over the competition, and this might help you arrange the scores.

physics kiddy said:
I arranged the scores from 9 to 1. and guessed that the answer is 6.
I used daveb's suggestion, combined with your attempt, to come up with a solution. I hope that you aren't required to use any specific method, because I just used the ol' guess-and-check. So I would read daveb's post again and think about it.
 
There are how many total points to be won, across all teams? Call this P.

There are THREE options initially to investigate for a range of 8 points: 2 to 10, 1 to 9 and 0 to 8.

Ignoring the repeated scores, there must be a team with every possible (integer) points value in range (no drawn matches, so only integers).

Still ignoring the repeat scores, these give a total points score of X, Y or Z

Therefore the two other teams (who are tied for points with one of these) must have (P-X)/2 or (P-Y)/2 or (P-Z)/2 points

Which of these options is feasible?
 

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