Iron Bar Thermal Radiation Calculation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the rate of thermal radiation emitted by a bar of iron, given its dimensions, initial temperature, and emissivity. The relevant formula for thermal radiation is provided, but there is uncertainty regarding the application of the formula and the interpretation of the area involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of determining the final temperature and whether it is needed for the calculation. There is an exploration of how to correctly apply the formula for thermal radiation, particularly regarding the area of the iron bar and whether heat radiates from all sides.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the application of the formula, suggesting that the final temperature is not required. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the surface area from which the heat radiates, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning assumptions about the geometry of the iron bar and the application of the thermal radiation formula.

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Homework Statement


Energy can be transmitted via radiation, the rate at which this happens is H=σAT4. A bar of iron is 0.5m long, 0.2m wide and 0.2m high. Iron has a density of 7900 kg/m3, a heat capacity of 400J/kgC, and a coefficient of linear expansion of 1.2x10-5

What is the rate at which iron radiates energy assuming it is initially at 500K and that the emissivity is 0.8?

Homework Equations


H=σAT4

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by trying to figure out the final Temperature so I could plug it into the formula above and get the H. However I am stuck at which equation to use in order to find the final temperature.

Im not sure if I'm going about it the right way either. Help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
 
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You don't need the final temperature, the formula does not call for it.
 
Simon Bridge said:
You don't need the final temperature, the formula does not call for it.
Ok so you're telling me I can just plug in the numbers and get the answer like this

H=(5.67x10^-8)(0.8)(0.2x0.5)(500)^4

The answer is still incorrect...
 
Gaith said:
Ok so you're telling me I can just plug in the numbers and get the answer like this

H=(5.67x10^-8)(0.8)(0.2x0.5)(500)^4

The answer is still incorrect...
Think carefully about what area A represents in the formula for the thermal radiation. Does heat only radiate from one side of the iron bar?
 
How did you work out the total surface area of the block of iron?
Ah, HM beat me to it.
 
SteamKing said:
Think carefully about what area A represents in the formula for the thermal radiation. Does heat only radiate from one side of the iron bar?
Wow I can't believe how I didnt see that. Thank you for pointing out my stupid mistake!
 

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