Steady state heat flow: radiation and conduction

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The problem involves steady-state heat flow through a solid cylindrical copper rod that is partially immersed in solid hydrogen and exposed to thermal radiation. The context includes thermal conductivity and radiation principles, with specific temperatures provided for both ends of the rod.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equilibrium temperature of the blackened end of the rod and the rate of melting of solid hydrogen. There is an exploration of the heat conduction and radiation equations, with attempts to equate the rates of heat transfer.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing hints and suggestions for revisiting the equations used, particularly regarding the temperature dependence in the heat conduction equation. There is a recognition of differing approaches and some participants have reached a numerical answer, but the reasoning behind it remains under discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding the emissivity of copper and the applicability of certain equations in the context of the problem. There is also mention of the difficulty in editing previous posts, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


One end of a solid cylindrical copper rod 0.200 m long and 0.0250 m in radius is inserted into a large block of solid hydrogen at its melting temperature, 13.84 K. The other end is blackened and exposed to thermal radiation from surrounding walls at 500.0 K. (Some telescopes in space employ a similar setup. A solid refrigerant keeps the telescope very cold—required for proper operation— even though it is exposed to direct sunlight.) The sides of the rod are insulated, so no energy is lost or gained except at the ends of the rod. (a) When equilibrium is reached, what is the temperature of the blackened end? The thermal conductivity of copper at temperatures
near 20 K is 1670 W/m^2 K. b) At what rate (in kg>h) does the solid hydrogen melt?

Homework Equations



H = Aes(T^4-T_s^4)H =dQ/dt =kA(T^4-Tc^4)/L

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to solve it by taking the equilibrium temperature as T and equated the two equations above thinking that the rate at which the radiation is absorbed by the black end equals to the rate at which the heat is conducted from that end to the colder end. But that gives me wrong answer. I can't seen to understand the equilibrium and thus, have to admit don't understand what to do and why I should do it. Thus, please help me solve as well as understand this problem. Thank you.
 
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Have another look at your heat conduction equation. Does it involve T4 terms?
 
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mjc123 said:
Have another look at your heat conduction equation. Does it involve T4 terms?
No. I solved it without using the power four. Sorry, for the error here. (I can't even edit it now, can I?). Actually, I even kept the answer of T in the above equations but they don't seem to give equal values. Thus, I came to a conclusion that my method is wrong. The answer is 14.26K.
 
Your approach seems to be correct - I get 14.26 that way - but as you haven't shown your working it's not possible to identify where the mistake is.
Simplifying hint: As T << 500, approximate (5004 - T4) by 5004.
 
I would like to know what value did you use for 'e' of copper. Am I wrong to use 0.3 for it?

Wait...that's where I went wrong. I should use 1 for "black" end of copper right?
 
I used 1 and got the right answer.
 

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