Is 0.9 Recurring Truly Considered Equal to 1 in Mathematics?

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In mathematics, 0.9 recurring (0.999...) is accepted as equal to 1, representing two different expressions of the same number. The proof often cited involves manipulating infinite series, which confirms that the limit of 0.999... approaches 1. While some argue that there is a non-zero difference between the two, this perspective misunderstands the nature of limits in real numbers. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding that 0.999... is a real number and is equivalent to 1 in all mathematical contexts. Ultimately, both representations are valid and denote the same value.
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wsabol said:
1 is a real whole number. 0.999... is a limit. That limit is equal to 1, not the real decimal number 0.9999...(as close as you can get to infinity without getting there, because the infinite term of the sequence ever happen)...9

No, 0.99999... is a notation for a real number. The real number is defined by a limit.

Limits are real numbers.
 
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micromass said:
No, 0.99999... is a notation for a real number. The real number is defined by a limit.

Limits are real numbers.

Damn you got me. Ok.
 
  • #33
There is also the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitesimal" approach.

There is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreal_number" \epsilon that is smaller than the smallest real number, so we can define the following: 1 - \epsilon = .999....

This implies that 1 and 1 - \epsilon (.999...) are different numbers in the hyperreal numbering system.
 
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Matt Benesi said:
There is also the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitesimal" approach.

There is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreal_number" \epsilon that is smaller than the smallest real number, so we can define the following: 1 - \epsilon = .999....

This implies that 1 and 1 - \epsilon (.999...) are different numbers in the hyperreal numbering system.


I fear you have not fully understood hyperreals. In the hyperreals, the definition 1-\varepsilon=0.9999... is not made. Furthermore, in the hyperreals, there is no such thing as the smallest real number.
 
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This topic has come up so often here that we have an FAQ that addresses this concept: [thread]507001[/thread].

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