Is a Cauchy Sequence Always Convergent?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Cauchy sequences in the context of real numbers and their convergence properties. Participants are exploring the definition of a Cauchy sequence and its implications for convergence, particularly in relation to the completeness of different number sets.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definition of a Cauchy sequence and its mathematical formulation. There are questions regarding the conditions under which a sequence is considered Cauchy and the implications of completeness in different number systems, such as the real numbers versus the rational numbers.

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The discussion includes attempts to correct misunderstandings about the definition of Cauchy sequences. Some participants are providing clarifications and corrections to earlier statements, indicating an active engagement with the material. However, there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications of Cauchy sequences and their convergence.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the limits of m and n in the definition of Cauchy sequences, with some posts suggesting a need for clarification on the conditions for convergence in different mathematical spaces.

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What does it mean when a sequence is Cauchy?
 
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A sequence of real numbers is a "Cauchy sequence" if and only if |an- am| goes to 0 as m and n go to infinity independently: given [itex]\epsilon> 0[/itex] there exist N such that if m and n are both > N, then [itex]|a_n- a_m|< \epsilon[/itex].

The advantage of working with Cauchy sequences is that (1) even if our sequence is of points in some abstract space, the "distance between points", here |p- q|, is a real number so we are now working with sequences of real numbers and (2) we know what we want the sequence to converge to.

Of course, for that to be useful, we have to know that the "Cauchy Criterion", that every Cauchy sequence converges, holds in our space- that our space is complete. That has to be proven separately. For exampe the set of real numbers is complete but the set of rational numbers is not. The sequence 3, 3.14, 3.141, 3.1415, 3.14159, ..., where each number contains one more digit in the decimal expansion of [itex]\pi[/itex] is a sequence of rational numbers (each number is a terminating decimal) and a Cauchy sequence (if m,n> N, am and an are identical for at least the first N decimal places so |am- an|< 10-N which goes to 0 as N goes to infinity) but does not converge to any rational number.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
A sequence of real numbers is a "Cauchy sequence" if and only if |an- am| goes to 0 as m and n go to 0 independently: given [itex]\epsilon> 0[/itex] there exist N such that if m and n are both > N, then [itex]|a_n- a_m|< \epsilon[/itex].

So Cauchy sequence occurs when
If [tex]\forall \epsilon > 0 \exists N, m > N[/tex] and [tex]n > N[/tex], then
[tex]|a_{n} - a_{m}| < \epsilon.[/tex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
A sequence of real numbers is a "Cauchy sequence" if and only if |an- am| goes to 0 as m and n go to 0 independently: given [itex]\epsilon> 0[/itex] there exist N such that if m and n are both > N, then [itex]|a_n- a_m|< 0[/itex].
I think you meant as m and n go to infinity.
 
Halls, I think you mean |a_n - a_m| < epsilon
 
Yes, of course. I'll go back and edit so I can pretend I never made those mistakes!
 

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