Is a Rocket-Propelled Shell with Solid State Fuel and Compressed Oxygen Viable?

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The discussion explores the feasibility of creating a lightweight artillery shell capable of containing solid-state rocket fuel and a compressed oxygen canister for vertical launch. The concept suggests that the shell could ignite at a predetermined altitude without needing onboard electronics, which would be vulnerable to shock. It raises the possibility of using this technology for cremating loved ones in space, referencing past projects like HARP and current NASA rail gun developments. Concerns about material integrity under extreme acceleration are noted, questioning whether modern technology could overcome these challenges. The conversation also touches on historical experiments with rocket-assisted projectiles to enhance artillery range, indicating ongoing interest in innovative propulsion methods.
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Hello
I am currently studying for a BA iin mech eng.

Now, i have been thinking recently, is it possible to produce a lightweight artillary shell, that can contain a solid state rocket fuel, and a compressed oxygen canister?

If so, would it not be all that impossible to fire this 'shell' vertically into the air, and ignite at a certain altitude, after a designated time by a fuse ignited on launch?

Now, you think i might have all gone mad. But hear me out.

We have the efficiency in that we do not need to require a force to overcome the additional weight of the fuel onboard on board the rocket, because the fuel to gain its initial altitude will be spontaneuosly ignitined in the 'artillary piece'.

There will be no electronic devices on board due to the shock, it would destroy everything, and they wouldn't be required anyway.

So, what could this be used for?
Well people all over the world would love to have their loved ones cremations in space for sure!

Anyone believe this is at all possible??
 
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It has been tried. Wiki Project HARP, Space Gun or Non-Rocket Spacelaunch. NASA is currently working on a rail gun to do it, but like project HARP, it probably would not be usefull for getting anything living into orbit.
 
Intereseting..
The project HARP marlet 3A was a failure due to the grain structure being morphed by the huge g's on acceleration.

Do you think that modern day technologies would be able to produce a grain structure that would allow for the rocket to fire under these extreme g's?
Im just speculating as to why no one has decided to take this project up again, it would be an excelent and relatively cheap way in the long run, to send up electronic deivces into space.
Perphaps not huge satalites, but you know what i mean.
 
Overly complex for limited gain
 
Many years back, I read the navy was experimenting with or using rocket assisted projectiles to increase the range of ship board guns. Claims were that a 5 in. gun, using a rocket assisted projectile, would have the same range as a 16 inch gun with conventional projectiles. I don't know if this work has become common practice or not, but it appeared to work.

Oh, electronics were being used in anti-aircraft projectiles in the later part of WWII, so don't rule out a smart projectile.
 
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Due to the constant never ending supply of "cool stuff" happening in Aerospace these days I'm creating this thread to consolidate posts every time something new comes along. Please feel free to add random information if its relevant. So to start things off here is the SpaceX Dragon launch coming up shortly, I'll be following up afterwards to see how it all goes. :smile: https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacex/
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