Is a Rooftop Solar Hot Water System Feasible in My City?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a solar hot water system, specifically focusing on calculating the equilibrium temperature of a solar collector plate based on given solar intensity and ambient temperature conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Stefan-Boltzmann law to determine the equilibrium temperature but expresses confusion over their calculations, questioning where they might be going wrong.
  • Some participants suggest that certain details, such as the hours of sunlight, may not be necessary for the calculation, prompting a reevaluation of the problem's assumptions.
  • Others explore the relationship between absorbed and emitted energy, indicating the need to consider ambient temperature in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights and alternative perspectives on the calculations. There is a recognition of the complexity involved, and some guidance has been provided regarding the application of the Stefan-Boltzmann law and the importance of considering ambient conditions.

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The original poster is preparing for an exam and is working through study questions, which may impose certain constraints on the discussion. There is also mention of an answer provided in a reference book, which may influence the expectations of the participants.

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Homework Statement


You would like to put a solar hot water system on your roof but your not sure if it's feasible. A reference book on solar energy shows that the ground level solar intensity in your city is 800W/m^2 for at least five hours a day throughout most of the year. Assuming that the completely black collector plate loses energy only by radiation and that the air temperature is 20 degrees Celsius. What is the equilibrium temperature of a collector plate directly facing the sun? Note that while the plate has two sides only the side facing the sun will radiate as the other side is well insulated.

Homework Equations



Q/delta t = e x sigma x A x T ^4

Sigma= stefan-Boltzmann constant = 5.67 x 10^-8

The Attempt at a Solution


My exams in a month and this is one of my study questions, the answer in the back of the book is 110 degrees Celsius.

I tried using the radiation equation provided to solve for T.

I subbed in 800/(5x60x60) = 0.04444 as Q/delta t.
Seeing as the solar intensity was given in W/m^2, I figured that they had already divided Q by A which left (e x sigma x T^4) on the RHS
I divided the 0.044444 by sigma and then assuming e =1 since the plate is black I was left with:
783852.63 = T^4
T = 29 K
Which is so far off. I feel like I'm making the same stupid mistake over and over but I can't figure out what it is?
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Hi Meera.sheeda, Welcome to Physics Forums.

I suspect that the details of the hours of sun yielding 800 W/m^2 is unnecessary information here. The question specifically asks "What is the equilibrium temperature of a collector plate directly facing the sun?" So the sun must be up and the plate directly facing it for your calculation.

The plate is therefore absorbing heat energy at the specified rate. It is also losing heat at a rate that depends upon the ambient temperature. Take a look at the Hyperphysics exposition on the Stefan-Boltzmann law.
 
NTW said:
The Stefan-Boltzmann law states that the irradiation = constant * (absolute temp)4.

The irradiation is in watts/m2. Assuming an absorption/emissivity of 1,

800 w/m2 = 5,6703 x 10-8 * T4

T = 345 K = 72 ºC
Thank you so much for your answer but this wasn't right either :/
 
Meera.sheeda said:
Thank you so much for your answer but this wasn't right either :/

Yes, I have just deleted it. Sorry.
 
gneill said:
Hi Meera.sheeda, Welcome to Physics Forums.

I suspect that the details of the hours of sun yielding 800 W/m^2 is unnecessary information here. The question specifically asks "What is the equilibrium temperature of a collector plate directly facing the sun?" So the sun must be up and the plate directly facing it for your calculation.

The plate is therefore absorbing heat energy at the specified rate. It is also losing heat at a rate that depends upon the ambient temperature. Take a look at the Hyperphysics exposition on the Stefan-Boltzmann law.
Thank you! I did have to use the 800W/m^2 but your link showed me how to include the surrounding temp in my calculations and I ended up getting the same answer as in the back of the book! thank you heaps for all your help :)
 

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