Is an adiabatic process isothermal also?

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An adiabatic process is defined as one in which there is no heat exchange between the system and its surroundings (Q = 0), leading to a change in temperature. While it is generally true that adiabatic processes involve temperature changes, exceptions exist, such as adiabatic expansion into a vacuum for ideal gases, where the process can be isothermal. The discussion emphasizes the importance of not generalizing adiabatic processes without considering specific conditions, such as electrical work or phase changes. Understanding these nuances is crucial for accurately interpreting thermodynamic principles.

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Is an adiabatic process isothermal also?

Can anyone please tell me if it is necessary for an adiabatic process to be isothermal? Please explain with example.
 
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No! An adiabatic process necessarily involves a change in temperature!
An adiabatic process is one in which there is no exchange of heat between the system and the surroundings (Q = 0). This implies that whatever work that is done by the system (eg a gas) or done on the system would cause a change in the internal energy and hence temperature of the system.

For instance, when a gas undergoes an adiabatic expansion, the work done by the gas has to come from the internal energy of the gas, since there is no heat transfer. Thus, the temperature of the gas falls. This is the reason why the adiabatic curve is steeper than the isotherms.
 


Fightfish said:
No! An adiabatic process necessarily involves a change in temperature!

Wrong. "Adiabatic" only means that there is no heat transfer to or from the system. Adiabatic expansion into a vacuum, for example, is isothermal for ideal gases.
 


Mapes said:
Wrong. "Adiabatic" only means that there is no heat transfer to or from the system. Adiabatic expansion into a vacuum, for example, is isothermal for ideal gases.
Ok...except for this special case where there is no resistance to expansion and no work is done :p
 


Fightfish said:
Ok...except for this special case where there is no resistance to expansion and no work is done :p

Or for processes where electrical work is done and an equal amount of P-V work extracted, or for phase changes that are achieved through hydrostatic pressure, or for multiple gases mixing... There's a universe of possible processes that are adiabatic and isothermal. It's important not to generalize from cases where the temperature does change.
 


Mapes said:
Or for processes where electrical work is done and an equal amount of P-V work extracted, or for phase changes that are achieved through hydrostatic pressure, or for multiple gases mixing... There's a universe of possible processes that are adiabatic and isothermal. It's important not to generalize from cases where the temperature does change.
Apologies. My prior exposure to thermodynamics did not cover nonequilibrium work modes, but only conventional expansion and contraction processes, thus my first instinct in thinking in that mode.
 

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