Is angular momentum something that is characteristic for a particle?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of angular momentum in relation to particles, particularly focusing on whether angular momentum is a characteristic of individual particles, the behavior of spin in particle combinations, and the conservation of angular momentum in reactions. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum mechanics and particle physics.

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  • One participant questions whether angular momentum is characteristic of a particle, noting that spin is a characteristic but inquires about combinations of particles like pi+pi-.
  • Another participant asserts that angular momentum is not characteristic of a particle, emphasizing its dependence on the reference point and that it can change over time.
  • There is a discussion about whether the spin of a combination of particles can be determined and if the total angular momentum is independent of how particles are grouped.
  • A later reply suggests that total angular momentum is uniquely defined and does not depend on the method of calculation.
  • One participant raises questions about the conservation of total angular momentum versus spin, particularly in the context of particle reactions.
  • Another participant explains that spin and orbital angular momentum are treated equally when adding angular momenta, introducing the relationship between total angular momentum, spin, and orbital angular momentum.

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Participants express differing views on whether angular momentum is characteristic of individual particles and how spin conservation applies in particle reactions. The discussion includes both agreement on certain principles of angular momentum and ongoing questions about specific scenarios.

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Participants mention the importance of reference points in defining angular momentum and the need for careful consideration of how angular momentum is calculated in different configurations. There are unresolved questions regarding the addition of spins when spatial angular momentum is not zero.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of quantum mechanics, particle physics, and those interested in the principles of angular momentum and spin in particle interactions.

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Hi,

I've got some questions about angular momentum. I hope they aren't too stupid, but I can't see the wood for the trees.

Is angular momentum something that is characteristic for a particle? I know that spin is characteristic (for example, the spin of a pi- is always 0) if I'm correct, but is the spin of the combination pi+pi- always 0?

And if I want to know the angular momentum of the combination of particles 123, can I group them the way I want? If I know the angular momentum of the combination 12, can I group those two particles and determine the angular momentum of (12)3? Is that the same as the angular momentum of 1(23)?

Thanks!
 
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>Is angular momentum something that is characteristic for a particle?
Certainly not. First of all, just as in classical physics, a.m. is always defined relative to a point in space. r cross p depends on what the origin of r is! And the angular momentum of a particle about this point can certainly change as time goes on, just as it does in classical physics. (Example: An electron is in orbit around a nucleus, then is excited to become a free particle) All the conservation laws from classical physics apply also in quantum physics, just remember that angular momentum is quantized.

>I know that spin is characteristic (for example, the spin of a pi- is always 0) if I'm correct, but is the spin of the combination pi+pi- always 0?
No, for example they could be spinning around their common center of mass.

>And if I want to know the angular momentum of the combination of particles 123, can I group them the way I want? If I know the angular momentum of the combination 12, can I group those two particles and determine the angular momentum of (12)3? Is that the same as the angular momentum of 1(23)?
Yes. The total angular momentum of a system is uniquely defined and does not depend on how you calculate it.
 
Thanks! :)

I forgot to ask something:

There is always conservation of total angular momentum, but spin doesn't have to be conserved, is that correct? And if there's a reaction: a + b -> c + d, and I want to check if the reaction is possible, one of the things I have to do is determine the total angular momentum of a + b and c + d and see if it's the same? If the spatial angular momentum is 0 at both sides of the reaction, then you just have to add the spins of a + b and c + d and see if they overlap (for example: spin of a + b = 0,1, spin of c + d = 0, then the reaction is possible because the spins both can be 0?)? But how do you add them when the spatial angular momentum isn't 0?

I know this are a lot of questions, I'd be very thankful if someone answered them :)
 
Of course, you'll have all these questions answered when you enter an undergraduate course on quantum mechanics. Including lots of problem solving, that's the proper way to learn this!
But OK, here goes. :)

The answer to your question is that spin and orbital angular momentum are treated on an equal footing when adding angular momenta. For the observables and operators,
J = S + L
(S is spin, L is orbital a.m., and J is total a.m.)
and for the quantum numbers you thus may obtain one of the cases
|s-l| <= j <= s+l
 

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