Is Anti-Gravity Possible? Theoretical Analysis and Extreme Conditions Explained

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of anti-gravity, exploring concepts from general relativity and the conditions under which gravity might be opposed or manipulated. Participants examine the implications of current physical theories and the potential for future advancements in understanding gravity.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that anti-gravity is highly unlikely based on Einstein's models of general relativity, which describe gravity as a result of the geometry of space.
  • One participant asserts that there is no anti-gravity in our universe.
  • Another participant questions the notion that gravity is unstoppable, proposing that all forces must propagate over some medium and speculating on the possibility of manipulating gravity.
  • A humorous suggestion is made about placing another Earth above to create an anti-gravity effect, but it is also noted that negative gravitational charge or mass does not exist, making it impossible to screen or cancel gravity.
  • Some participants highlight the lack of a unified theory that integrates gravity with other fundamental forces, suggesting this leaves room for future control over gravity.
  • Concerns are raised about unverified speculation, with a reminder to base arguments on standard textbook knowledge.
  • One participant emphasizes that knowing a physical law does not equate to being able to circumvent it, referencing Newton's laws as an example.
  • References to exotic matter and theoretical possibilities are mentioned, with distinctions made between theoretical and hypothetical scenarios.
  • Another participant discusses practical examples of "anti-gravity" in mechanics, such as balloons and airplanes, while questioning the feasibility of creating a field that cancels gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the possibility of anti-gravity, with no consensus reached. Some argue against its feasibility based on current understanding, while others propose that future advancements may allow for manipulation of gravity.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various theories and concepts, including general relativity and the nature of forces, but acknowledge limitations in current understanding and the need for further exploration of gravity's properties.

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Hello i was just curious on whether anti-gravity, theoretically speaking is a poissibility. Through Einstein's models of general relativity he explained that gravity wasn't a force, but a direct result of the geometry of space itself. Therefore making the possibility of anti-gravity highly unlikely, except under extreme conditions that are regarded as unlikely or impossible.

What i would like to know, is anti-gravity possible?, if so what 'extreme' conditions enable it to oppose gravity.
 
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There is no anti-gravity in our universe.
 
I really find it hard to believe Gravity is unstoppable.
It seems every force must propagate over some medium.
We learned that electromagnetism is and now we know how to contort it.
Can't we contort gravity?
but perhaps I don't know enough relativity and I am saying something stupid.
 
Sure, here's your antigravity: Put another Earth above you. Ta-Da.

Seriously though, the non-existence of a "negative gravitational charge" (would be something like negative mass) means gravity is impossible to screen or cancel out.
 
I thought the conclusion was that we don't have a unified theory that unites gravity, Electromagnetic, and the strong and weak forces.
All of the equations we have have problems.

Doesn't this leave room for potentially having control of gravity in the future?
 
I would like to remind everyone of our PF Rules against unverified speculation. If you are arguing for something, unless it is based on standard textbook knowledge, you must make valid references to support your claim. Otherwise, we will consider it as a speculative post.

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tot said:
I thought the conclusion was that we don't have a unified theory that unites gravity, Electromagnetic, and the strong and weak forces.
All of the equations we have have problems.

Doesn't this leave room for potentially having control of gravity in the future?

I find it really interesting that so many people equate knowing a physical law to being able to break or "go around" it. This is never true. We have know Newtons laws for a very long time but we are still haven't found a way around them.
 
tot said:
I really find it hard to believe Gravity is unstoppable.
It seems every force must propagate over some medium.
Gravity is only a "force" in Newtonian physics, which has been superceded by GR.
 
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"By adding a dimension-mapping the universe in four dimensions instead of three-Einstein showed that gravitational force is due to geometry." astronomer Timothy Ferris.
 
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AFAIK theoretically speaking is a possibility. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_matter"
 
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dmtr said:
AFAIK theoretically speaking is a possibility. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_matter"

Not theoretically, hypothetically.

Big difference.
 
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doc.madani said:
Hello i was just curious on whether anti-gravity, theoretically speaking is a poissibility. Through Einstein's models of general relativity he explained that gravity wasn't a force, but a direct result of the geometry of space itself. Therefore making the possibility of anti-gravity highly unlikely, except under extreme conditions that are regarded as unlikely or impossible.

What i would like to know, is anti-gravity possible?, if so what 'extreme' conditions enable it to oppose gravity.

Of course "anti-gravity" is possible! Balloons, airplanes, helicopters etc. do it all the time.

By this of course what we mean by "anti-gravity" is that the force of gravity is balanced by another equal and opposite force. This is done all the time. It's simple mechanics and does not defy any known rules.

Now I take it what you mean is could one annul gravity? Or alternatively create an equal and opposite gravity field that cancels the first one. Obviously that answer is "yes" also. As someone already pointed out, you simply place another Earth over your head! Two equal and opposite gravity fields that cancel to zero! These places exist between planets.

Finally we come to science fiction "speculation". Can we have something that "blocks" gravity? or some "drive" that can lift an object without reaction? The famous "anti-gravity paint" perhaps? Unfortunately, If you want to know if such a thing is "possible" first you'd have to understand exactly what gravity is! Simply saying it's a mathematical warp in four-space really doesn't do it. You'd have to have interactions and ways to get them. So far we know that mass warps 4-space but that is already covered in the overhead Earth above. So if you wish to build the "Enterprise" you first are going to need a theory that allows you to understand gravity enough and how it works to manipulate it.
 

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