Is Calculus a Mysterious Art or Just Advanced Mathematics?

  • Thread starter Thread starter loom91
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Calculus
Click For Summary
Calculus is often perceived as confusing and lacking internal logic, particularly in its treatment of derivatives and integrals. Many students struggle with the concept of dy/dx, which is sometimes treated as both an operator and a ratio, leading to misconceptions. The discussion highlights the need for a more rigorous foundation in calculus, which is typically provided in advanced courses like real analysis. While some argue that treating differentials as infinitesimals can be intuitive, others emphasize that this approach lacks clarity and rigor. Overall, a deeper understanding of calculus can be achieved through more comprehensive educational resources and courses.
  • #31
Spivak? Don't think so (I could be wrong).You can find the two-volume calc books by Apostol from Wiley, though. (~ Rs. 650) I assume that you're from Calcutta. There must be a British Library (Dep. High. Comm.) there. Check it out.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
  • #32
You mean Spivak's book is not distributed in India? Is Apostol good?
 
  • #33
loom91 said:
You mean Spivak's book is not distributed in India? Is Apostol good?
I'm not sure, at least I couldn't find anything on the 'net. You can contact these guys http://www.mathpop.com/ for further info. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471000051/?tag=pfamazon01-20's supposed to be one of the good 'pure-maths-type' intro. I have borrowed the book once from a library, but being 'infintely impaired' :wink: , I couldn't get beyond a few pages.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #34
any book you can read is a goodbook for you. then afterwards progress to another book.
 
  • #35
What makes James Stewart rubbish? I think the fifth edition is very robust.
 
  • #36
one mans rubbish is another mans croissant filling. i like henry helson's book.
 
  • #37
I think it was me that described them as rubbish, so I shall defend that statement. They are rubbish because they have no content, or rather, what mathematical content there is is so diluted as to lose any interest. They do not prove anything, and the statements that they make are trivial in the extreme and not at all worth reading. Anyone with one scintilla of one iota of one brain cell can immediately see that they are dross and contain practically no mathematical knowledge worth writing down. Engineers may disagree at will. Actually what irks me is that they charge a ridiculous amount of money to students to temporarily own a book that could be written by the tutor in one 100th of the amount of space at fractional cost of energy to the tutor. Canonical example is the fact that one of them (FInney I tihnk), proves three different chain rules for them. Hello! There's only one chain rule, don't dress it up and make them think it is harder than it is. Once they're doing multivarible calc there is no difference in difficulty between the chain rule for functions from R^m to R^n for any m and n so don't make them learn special cases...

So, to clarify, they are rubbish because they are exteremely bad value, and cannot be condoned as purchases to anyone at all, excepting that many universities require their students to buy them *for no good reason in my opinion*.
 
Last edited:
  • #38
Teaching students about 1-forms is ridiculous. They should just learn to "do" calculus. When they have gained some mathematical maturity then they can be treated as adults. I remember that I had a rough time in my differential geometry class despite having been a math student for 3 years
 
  • #39
  • #40
well, you asked.
 
  • #41
marcmtlca you are using the oft debated argument: " i had trouble with something, hence no one should ever be taught it before i was", no matter how competent is his teacher.

this is rubbish. with all due respect.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
8K
Replies
11
Views
6K
  • · Replies 48 ·
2
Replies
48
Views
6K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K