Is Causality Preserved in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of causality in quantum mechanics (QM), exploring whether causality is preserved within the framework of QM and the implications of phenomena such as entanglement and retrocausality. Participants examine various interpretations of QM, the role of the Schrödinger equation, and the nature of correlations versus causation in quantum systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of 'preservation of causality' in QM, suggesting that causality may not exist in the traditional sense, but rather correlations over space and time do.
  • One participant cites Anton Zeilinger's work on entanglement swapping, proposing that it could imply retrocausality, where the cause of a correlation appears to lie in the future.
  • Another participant argues that while the state in QM is determined by causal equations, the results of observations are probabilistic and may not reflect causality.
  • There is a discussion about whether initial conditions determining final conditions constitutes causality, with some suggesting that correlations do not necessarily imply a causal relationship.
  • Participants express differing views on the implications of retrocausality, with some asserting that QM does not allow for communication from future to past observers, while others speculate on the potential for such interactions.
  • One participant raises a hypothetical scenario involving entangled particles and a distant observer, questioning whether it could be used to send information, but acknowledges limitations in the proposed setup.
  • Another participant emphasizes that while correlations can be observed, they do not equate to causation, and the inability to send information through these correlations complicates the interpretation of causality in QM.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a range of views on the nature of causality in QM, with no consensus reached. Some agree that correlations exist, while others debate the implications of these correlations on the concept of causality, particularly in the context of retrocausality.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that interpretations of QM can vary significantly, and the discussion reflects differing assumptions about causality, determinism, and the role of probability in quantum systems. The implications of entanglement and the nature of measurements are also highlighted as areas of complexity.

  • #61
entropy1 said:
So, if there is no realism, a particle may not even exist if not measured? What does the qualification 'local' mean in this context?
That is a good question. Adopting a no realism/epistemic interpretation does appear to avoid ontic, non-local causal influences (and maintain a fully relativistic account of physical goings-on). But, at the same time, it's not clear that a non-realist interpretation actually saves locality because in adopting that kind of interpretation, the distinction between 'local' and 'non-local' would not even appear to apply.
 
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bohm2 said:
That is a good question. Adopting a no realism/epistemic interpretation does appear to avoid ontic, non-local causal influences (and maintain a fully relativistic account of physical goings-on). But, at the same time, it's not clear that a non-realist interpretation actually saves locality because in adopting that kind of interpretation, the distinction between 'local' and 'non-local' would not even appear to apply.
Thank you. It seems to me that, if you don't measure the event, there is at least no 'informational' connection established between the observer and the event - concerning a measurement. (?)
 
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The initial question has been answered a long time ago. Yes, QM is causal.

Time to close the thread.
 
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