Is Choice A Correct for Comparing GRE Math Quantities?

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The discussion centers around a GRE quantitative problem involving the comparison of two quantities derived from equations. Participants explore the solutions for the variables involved, questioning the correctness of the provided answer choices and the accompanying explanation.

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  • Some participants express confusion regarding the correctness of choice B, arguing that Quantity A (x) should be greater than Quantity B (y) based on their solutions.
  • Others suggest that the explanation provided in the problem may not align with the question, indicating a potential typo in the question itself.
  • One participant calculates that if y = -3, the corresponding equation for x leads to complex solutions, which raises questions about the comparison of real and complex numbers.
  • Another participant points out that the two equations are independent, questioning how a value for y could affect the equation for x.
  • Some participants propose that the intent of the problem may have been to compare the solutions of the two equations rather than finding simultaneous solutions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct answer choice, with multiple competing views on the interpretation of the problem and the validity of the provided solutions.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of misinterpretations of the problem due to the format of the question, and some calculations lead to complex numbers, which complicates the comparison of quantities.

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I was going through some GRE Quantitative Practice Tests, and found this question. Maybe I'm not understanding the question right (not a native speaker, and have never solved math problems in English), but choice B doesn't seem correct to me.
Solutions for x (Quantity A) are 6 and -1, and for y(Quantity B) are -3 and -3. Meaning, -3<6 and -3<-1.
Shouldn't A be correct?
Also, there's an explanation at the bottom which is correct in general but can't seem to understand how it proves the correct choice.

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Yeah, I think you're right. The answer makes no sense. Also the explanation seems to be geared toward a problem of quantity A=c value and quantity B=k value.

Perhaps you can send it to someone at the GRE center for clarification.
 
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The answer given doesn't match the question, as far as I can see, so my guess is that there is a significant typo in the question. In the answer shown, they talk about factors (x + 2) and (x + 3).
The equation in x that they give is equivalent to x2 - 5x -6 = 0, or (x - 6)(x + 1) = 0, so x = 6 or x = -1.
The equation in y is equivalent to (y + 3)2 = 0, so y = -3.

For the two equations, both values of x are larger than the single y value.
 
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Unless I miscalculated, if ## y = -3 ## then ## x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0 ## which gives ## x ## the value ## {5 \pm i\sqrt{47}} \over {2} ##. Since reals and complexes cannot be compared, I would say D! (I think there's a mistake in the printing.)
 
aikismos said:
Unless I miscalculated, if ## y = -3 ## then ## x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0 ##
I don't see how you got your last equation. The two equations are independent of one another, so how does a value for y result in ##x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0##?
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which gives ## x ## the value ## {5 \pm i\sqrt{47}} \over {2} ##. Since reals and complexes cannot be compared, I would say D! (I think there's a mistake in the printing.)
 
Mark44 said:
I don't see how you got your last equation. The two equations are independent of one another, so how does a value for y result in ##x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0##?

<EDIT> Ignore this post. Misread the scanned problem. </EDIT>

Since you have ## E_1 = E_2 = E_3 ##, you merely solve ## E_2 = E_3 ## first, and then substitute your value of ## y ## back into ## E_1 = E_2 ##.

## E_2 = E_3 : -y^2 + 3y = 9y + 9 ##
## -y^2 + 3y = 9y + 9 \rightarrow (y + 3)^2 = 0 \rightarrow y = -3 ##

## E_1 = E_2 : x^2 - 5x = -y^2 + 3y ##
## x^2 - 5x = -y^2 + 3y \rightarrow x^2 - 5x = -1 \cdot (-3)^2 + 3 \cdot (-3) \rightarrow x^2 - 5x = -18 \rightarrow x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0 ##
 
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aikismos said:
Unless I miscalculated, if ## y = -3 ## then ## x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0 ## which gives ## x ## the value ## {5 \pm i\sqrt{47}} \over {2} ##. Since reals and complexes cannot be compared, I would say D! (I think there's a mistake in the printing.)

Oh, wait, one could take the magnitude of both numbers!
 
aikismos said:
Since you have ## E_1 = E_2 = E_3 ##, you merely solve ## E_2 = E_3 ## first, and then substitute your value of ## y ## back into ## E_1 = E_2 ##.

## E_2 = E_3 : -y^2 + 3y = 9y + 9 ##
## -y^2 + 3y = 9y + 9 \rightarrow (y + 3)^2 = 0 \rightarrow y = -3 ##

## E_1 = E_2 : x^2 - 5x = -y^2 + 3y ##
## x^2 - 5x = -y^2 + 3y \rightarrow x^2 - 5x = -1 \cdot (-3)^2 + 3 \cdot (-3) \rightarrow x^2 - 5x = -18 \rightarrow x^2 - 5x + 18 = 0 ##
I don't think the intent was to find a simultaneous solution; i.e., a solution (x, y). My take is that the intent was merely to compare the solutions to the two equations, in which case answer A would be the correct response.
 
Mark44 said:
I don't think the intent was to find a simultaneous solution; i.e., a solution (x, y). My take is that the intent was merely to compare the solutions to the two equations, in which case answer A would be the correct response.

Sorry. Small screen display. I saw the problem wrong. :D
 

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