Planning on doing the physics GRE (not a physics major)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the decision of a biochemistry undergraduate student to take the physics GRE in order to pursue a PhD in an interdisciplinary lab focused on biophysics. Participants explore the adequacy of the student's physics background, preparation strategies for the GRE, and the relevance of the GRE for various graduate programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the student lacks sufficient physics preparation, particularly in classical and quantum mechanics, to perform well on the GRE.
  • Others argue that the justification for taking the GRE depends on whether the student will apply to a PhD program within a physics department.
  • There are mentions of interdisciplinary programs with different streams, such as those at Caltech and Harvard, which complicate the necessity of the GRE.
  • One participant emphasizes the difference between formal coursework and self-study, noting the challenge of mastering advanced topics in a short time frame.
  • Recommendations for preparation include self-study and using specific resources like "Conquering the Physics GRE" to build foundational knowledge.
  • Another participant advises the student to identify specific areas of interest in biological research and pursue relevant coursework in math, physics, or biophysics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of the student's current physics background and the necessity of the GRE for interdisciplinary programs. There is no consensus on whether the GRE is essential or on the best preparation strategies.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of the student's current coursework and the challenges of self-teaching advanced topics within a limited timeframe.

DarkForest
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Hi everyone,
I've read a few posts on this forum and thought they were helpful enough that I should try to get some help as well. My situation is a little unusual in that I am a third year undergraduate student majoring in biochemistry, minoring in mathematics. I want to tackle biological problems for my PhD, but my experience working in biology labs made me feel unsatisfied with the methods currently employed in pure biological research. Anyways, long story short, I'm hoping to get into an interdisciplinary lab where I can tackle biological problems with more a quantitative and physical approach. Of course, it would've been much better if I had this realization a couple of years ago, but I have to work with what I got. So, my rationale for doing the physics GRE is basically to "prove" to the admissions people that I am capable of grasping fundamental physics in a timely manner so that I can work in a biophysics lab. I have looked over the physics GRE practice question, and I have learned almost all the math necessary for it. I have taken 2 first year undergraduate physics and a second year physics course (thermodynamics). So my questions are: how should I prepare for the GRE given my background? And is my reason for taking it justified? I have about 5 month, but if 3 and a half is doable, I would want to do it mid-september.
 
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DarkForest said:
Hi everyone,
So my questions are: how should I prepare for the GRE given my background?
You don't yet have the proper physics preparation (e.g., classical and quantum mechanics) to do well on the GRE.
DarkForest said:
And is my reason for taking it justified?
Only if you're going to pursue a PhD that falls within the domain of a physics department.
 
DrSteve said:
You don't yet have the proper physics preparation (e.g., classical and quantum mechanics) to do well on the GRE.
Ok, how should I prepare?

Only if you're going to pursue a PhD that falls within the domain of a physics department.

A lot of program have different streams, take for example in Caltech, the neuroscience PhD program has a physics stream, biology stream, and psychology stream. Also, programs like biophysics at Harvard doesn't belong to either physics or biology as far as I know. So its not as clear cut as physics department vs non-physics
 
DarkForest said:
A lot of program have different streams, take for example in Caltech, the neuroscience PhD program has a physics stream, biology stream, and psychology stream. Also, programs like biophysics at Harvard doesn't belong to either physics or biology as far as I know. So its not as clear cut as physics department vs non-physics

So do they require a GRE, or not? I see no point in taking it if they don't. In any event, you're not ready to take it with only the courses you have under your belt.
 
DrSteve said:
So do they require a GRE, or not? I see no point in taking it if they don't. In any event, you're not ready to take it with only the courses you have under your belt.
Not required, but my rationale still stands. I know I'm not ready now which is why I'm asking how I can prepare for it, it's not like any of this can't be self-taught. I've had no trouble with any math/physics course I've taken so far.
 
What major do you want to pursue in graduate school? Biology, Chemistry, or Physics? I think, however, biophysics research is primarily done in the physics department and the people working in these labs are physicists.
 
DarkForest said:
Not required, but my rationale still stands. I know I'm not ready now which is why I'm asking how I can prepare for it, it's not like any of this can't be self-taught. I've had no trouble with any math/physics course I've taken so far.

There's a big difference between taking a first/second year undergrad physics course with an instructor and teaching yourself advanced quantum mechanics. You are asking to cram ~4 years of study into five months. By self-study.

However, if you want the bare minimum of knowledge, your best bet is to buy a copy of the "Conquering the Physics GRE" book and go through it. If you can solve the questions in that book, you will do okay, since the practice tests and questions in that book are generally more difficult than the pGRE.
 
DarkForest said:
I want to tackle biological problems for my PhD, but my experience working in biology labs made me feel unsatisfied with the methods currently employed in pure biological research.

If I were you I would determine the specific area of biological research that you are interested, delve into the physical techniques that are applicable to that area, and then take specific math, physics or biophysics courses that would help you with those techniques.
 

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