Is Compton Scattering Valid at 180 Degrees?

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The discussion centers on the validity of the Compton scattering equation at 180 degrees, with participants confirming that the equation does apply at this angle. A participant encountered a discrepancy between their calculated percentage of energy transferred to an electron (3.86%) and the textbook answer (3.93%), leading to speculation about potential rounding or precision issues in the book's calculations. They noted that the maximum energy transfer occurs when the photon is scattered backward, reinforcing the relevance of the angle. The calculations involved specific constants and highlighted the importance of significant figures in achieving accurate results. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the nuances of Compton scattering calculations and the potential for minor discrepancies in educational resources.
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Does the Compton scattering equation

<br /> <br /> \lambda &#039; - \lambda = \frac{h}{m_{e} c} (1-cos \theta )<br /> <br />

work even when \theta = 180^{\circ}?
 
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yeah sure, why shouldn't it?
 
I just did a textbook problem which asked for the percentage of a photon's energy that would be passed to an electron via Compton scattering given that it was the maximum amount possible, so I assumed the angle was 180 degrees and my answer did not exactly match the book's answer. Then I wondered if perhaps "scattering" implied a kind of deflection and not a complete rebound.

Maybe the mismatch is just due to rounding..
 
Maximum transfer to electron is when E_prime is minimum
 
snoopies622 said:
I just did a textbook problem which asked for the percentage of a photon's energy that would be passed to an electron via Compton scattering given that it was the maximum amount possible, so I assumed the angle was 180 degrees and my answer did not exactly match the book's answer. Then I wondered if perhaps "scattering" implied a kind of deflection and not a complete rebound.

Maybe the mismatch is just due to rounding..
At 180°, (E-E')/E = a/(1+a)
where:
E = photon's energy before scattering
E' = photon's energy after scattering
a = 2hv/mc^2 (v = photon's frequency before scattering).

The maximun value of (E-E')/E is 100% for: a = +oo, that is for an infinite energy of the photon before scattering.

What did you and your book get, instead?
 
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The book asks, "for the Compton effect, determine the percentage of energy transferred to the recoil electrons that acquire the maximum kinetic energy when \lambda = 1.21 x 10^{-10}m."

I computed 1-\frac {\lambda}{\lambda &#039;}

where \lambda &#039; = \lambda + \frac{h}{m_0 c}(1-cos \theta )

and \theta = 180^{\circ} since that maximizes 1-cos \theta.

My answer: 3.85% (rounded from 3.85294..)
Book's answer: 3.93%.
 
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For what it's worth, I get 3.86% (rounded from 3.8558%). I used five significant figures for all constants, and did not round off any intermediate steps. I suspect that whoever calculated the book's answer either used less-precise values for the constants, or rounded off one or more intermediate steps.
 
jtbell said:
I suspect that whoever calculated the book's answer either used less-precise values for the constants, or rounded off one or more intermediate steps.

I guess that happens. Thanks for stepping in. I just looked at the Compton scattering section of another textbook and saw, "the scattered wavelength is angle-dependent and is greatest for scattering in the backward direction (\theta = 180^{\circ})." So there you go.
 
I get 3.86% using three significant figures for all constants:

lambda = 1.21*10^(-10) m
m =9.11*10^(-31) kg
c = 3.00*10^8 m/s
h = 6.63+10^(-34) J*s

I get 3.90% if I take m = 9.00*10^(-31) kg
 

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