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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series ∑( ∞ to n=10) (-1)^n (2n)! / n!(2n)^n, with participants exploring whether it converges conditionally or absolutely. The subject area includes series convergence tests, particularly the Ratio Test.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Ratio Test and share their calculations, questioning the correctness of their steps and limits. There is a focus on the significance of the starting index n=10 and the implications of the limits derived during the test.

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Some participants have provided corrections and clarifications on the calculations, while others express confusion about specific steps and limits. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with some guidance offered regarding the convergence of the series.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of assistance they can receive. The discussion also highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the application of the Ratio Test and the significance of the series' starting point.

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Simkate said:
Does this series convege or diverge- conditionally or absolutely ? ( with justification)

∑( ∞ to n=10) (-1)^n (2n)! / n!(2n)^n

I have use the RATIO TEST and after showing all my work i reached

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lim(n-->∞) (2n/2n+1)
lim(n-->∞) 2/ (2+1/n)^n < 1

and therefore the series is convergent and is absolutely convergent


i don't know if my last two steps were correct, can someone help and make sure for me please.
I haven't checked all your work, but the limit in the next to last step is 1. That is, lim 2n/(2n + 1) = 1. I don't understand where your last step came from.

Please show what you ended with in the Ratio test.
 
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= (2n/2n+1)^n
so it is conditionally convergent?
 
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Simkate said:
Here is my Work

∑( ∞ to n=10) (-1)^n (2n)! / n!(2n)^n

Using the Ratio Test
lim (n-->∞) [(-1)^n+1 (2n+1)! / (n+1!)(2n+1)^n+1] * [(n!) (2n)^n / (-1)^n) (2n)!]
Mistake above. The first fraction will be (2(n + 1))! /[(n + 1)! (2(n + 1))^(n + 1).


Simkate said:
lim(n--->∞) [(2n+1)(2n)^n] / (2n+1)^n ( 2n+1)

lim(n--∞) [(2n)^n] / [ (2n+1)^n]

= (2n/2n+1)^n

Now i don't know what to after this...

i was wondering if its (n/n+1)^n --> (converges to) e >1

so it is conditionally convergent?
 
What signaficance does the n=10 have?

the limit is still n to infinity right?



Thank you for that correction:

Now i have got:

after cancelling out terms through the ratio test
i ended up with

-lim(n-->∞) [(2n+2) (2n)^n] / [(n+1) (2n+2)^n]


-lim(n-->∞) [2n+2/ n+1] * [ 2n/2n+2]^n

I don't know what it converges to it is confusing me please help
 
Simkate said:
What signaficance does the n=10 have?
None that I can see. The series just happens to start at n = 10.
Simkate said:
the limit is still n to infinity right?
Yes.
Simkate said:
Thank you for that correction:

Now i have got:

after cancelling out terms through the ratio test
i ended up with

-lim(n-->∞) [(2n+2) (2n)^n] / [(n+1) (2n+2)^n]
That's not what I get, which is (2n + 1) nn/(n + 1)n + 1, which further simplifies to (2n + 1)/(n + 1) * [n/(n + 1)]n.
Simkate said:
-lim(n-->∞) [2n+2/ n+1] * [ 2n/2n+2]^n

I don't know what it converges to it is confusing me please help
 
Thank You i did see my silly mistake their and i have corrected now it makes sense.


so at the end

the lim (n--∞) 2n+1/n+1 * [ n/n+1]^n

i can divide all the terms by n?

to make it [ (2+1/n)/ (1+1/n) ] * [(1)/(1+1/n)^n] = 2/e < 1

therefore the series is absoluetely convergent?
 
Yes, the series converges and is absolutely convergent. Good work! You picked up on the 2nd limit, which is 1/e.
 
:) thank u so much i really appreciate it...it was so helpful
 

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