Is COVID-19 Really Airborne? The Story of a Scientific Debate

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The discussion centers around the transmission dynamics of COVID-19, specifically whether it is aerosolized like the flu and common cold or primarily transmitted through larger respiratory droplets from sneezing and coughing. The conversation includes references to scientific research, experimental results, and differing interpretations of the term "airborne" in relation to viral transmission.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the transmission of COVID-19 is not a simple binary choice between aerosolization and droplet transmission.
  • A participant references a link discussing COVID-19 transmission dynamics, indicating that the topic is complex and requires broader understanding.
  • Another participant shares a video related to the effectiveness of facemasks in the context of aerosolization, implying that masks may play a role in mitigating airborne transmission.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of experimental results regarding airborne transmission, particularly in relation to the World Health Organization's stance on the matter.
  • Linsey Marr's research is highlighted, suggesting that the coronavirus can remain suspended in the air, posing risks in indoor environments, which contrasts with the WHO's previous statements.
  • The discussion touches on historical challenges faced by researchers in the field of aerosol science, particularly regarding the acceptance of their findings in mainstream medical literature.
  • There is mention of thresholds in scientific understanding that can lead to misinterpretations, emphasizing the need for interdisciplinary communication between aerosol scientists and medical professionals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of COVID-19 transmission, with no consensus reached on whether it is primarily aerosolized or transmitted through larger droplets. The discussion remains unresolved with ongoing debate about the implications of research findings.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of scientific terminology, the historical context of aerosol research, and the evolving nature of guidelines from health organizations. The discussion reflects the complexities and nuances involved in defining airborne transmission.

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Is COVID-19 aerosolized?
Is COVID-19 aerosolized like the flu and common cold? Or is it only transmitted through sneeze and cough droplets?
 
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New research (topic is 'masks', but Means is aerosolization):

Seeing is Believing: Researchers Test Effectiveness of Facemasks and Soc... https://youtu.be/evATiHUejxg via
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The headline is sensational, but the article content is important regarding the experimental results and their interpretation and extension to related phenomenon, or in this case aerial transmission of viruses and other communicable diseases.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/

Marr is an aerosol scientist at Virginia Tech and one of the few in the world who also studies infectious diseases. To her, the new coronavirus looked as if it could hang in the air, infecting anyone who breathed in enough of it. For people indoors, that posed a considerable risk. But the WHO didn’t seem to have caught on. Just days before, the organization had tweeted “FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne.” That’s why Marr was skipping her usual morning workout to join 35 other aerosol scientists. They were trying to warn the WHO it was making a big mistake.

. . . the WHO’s advisers seemed to be saying those same laws didn’t apply to virus-laced respiratory particles. To them, the word airborne only applied to particles smaller than 5 microns. Trapped in their group-specific jargon, the two camps on Zoom literally couldn’t understand one another.

Linsey Marr installed air samplers in places such as day cares and airplanes, she frequently found the flu virus where the textbooks said it shouldn’t be—hiding in the air, most often in particles small enough to stay aloft for hours. And there was enough of it to make people sick.

In 2011, this should have been major news. Instead, the major medical journals rejected her manuscript. Even as she ran new experiments that added evidence to the idea that influenza was infecting people via aerosols, only one niche publisher, The Journal of the Royal Society Interface, was consistently receptive to her work. In the siloed world of academia, aerosols had always been the domain of engineers and physicists, and pathogens purely a medical concern; Marr was one of the rare people who tried to straddle the divide. “I was definitely fringe,” she says.

Besides Linsey Marr, the other hero in this effort is graduate student Katie Randall, who found an out-of-print book written by a Harvard engineer named William Firth Wells. Published in 1955, it was called Airborne Contagion and Air Hygiene.

Thresholds for phenomena in science and engineering can be problematic, or even dangerous, if misunderstood or misapplied. The story in the Wired article is similar to patterns I've seen in certain aspects of science and engineering.
 

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