Is Destiny Just an Excuse for Unforeseen Failures and Successes?

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The discussion centers on the concept of destiny and whether it is predetermined or a construct to explain unforeseen events. Participants debate if destiny implies that outcomes are inevitable, as illustrated by examples of unexpected life events like failing an exam or suffering from health issues despite a healthy lifestyle. Some argue that while events may seem random, they can be traced back to a series of causes, suggesting a lack of true free will. Others contend that the idea of destiny serves to rationalize unexpected failures and successes, emphasizing the importance of personal agency and choice. Ultimately, the conversation reflects a philosophical exploration of free will versus determinism, questioning the significance of believing in destiny.
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Every event in this universe is a result of the cause and effect nature of the universe. It is that simple. Every star that has formed, every drop of rain, every mispeled word, is a result of cause and effect. Since we are thinking, reasoning creatures and have created such great acheivments, like wars and the works of great authors and artists, we want to believe that we have absolute control of our lives. We do not. We have as much control of our future as does a leaf blowing in the wind.

The reason we believe that we are in control is we think that something as complex as the human mind must mean we are in control. We do not. But, I could have turned left, but I decided at the last moment to turn right. That proves it. No it does not. It is every moment in your life on this planet, in this galaxy (etc.), that led to the moment where I turned right at that last moment.

I find this as more interesting. In this thinking, I have begun to have no regrets. How can I? Everything that has happened was going to happen. All of this said and done, I'm still voting Bush out of office.

Finally, to paraphase Douglas Adams, "Some believe the moment that someone actually figures out the nature of the universe it will be instantly be replaced by something more inexplicable... Others believe that this has already happened."
 
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You may understand or you may not understand what you speak, but your words are correct. Nice first post. Quote from yourself, if it's born there it will have more impact than a billion quotes.
 

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