Is Destiny Just an Excuse for Unforeseen Failures and Successes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of destiny and its implications on unforeseen failures and successes. Participants explore whether destiny is a predetermined path or a construct used to explain unexpected events, examining its relevance in personal experiences and broader philosophical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that destiny is often invoked to explain unforeseen failures and successes, questioning whether it truly exists or is merely a retrospective interpretation of events.
  • Others argue that if destiny exists, it is inherently tied to the choices made, implying that every action leads to a predetermined outcome, regardless of attempts to alter it.
  • One viewpoint posits that nothing is predetermined, and unexpected events are simply accidents rather than manifestations of destiny.
  • Some participants express a belief in randomness, suggesting that events are not predetermined and that individuals can influence outcomes through their actions.
  • A contrasting perspective emphasizes the deterministic model, where events are seen as a series of cause and effect leading to inevitable outcomes, raising questions about the nature of free will.
  • Several participants reflect on the philosophical implications of destiny, with some asserting that understanding this concept is crucial to navigating life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a range of views on the existence and nature of destiny, with no consensus reached. Some believe in a deterministic framework, while others advocate for randomness and the absence of predestination.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of destiny and fate, as well as differing interpretations of control over events. The complexity of the topic leads to unresolved questions regarding the interplay between free will and determinism.

  • #31
Every event in this universe is a result of the cause and effect nature of the universe. It is that simple. Every star that has formed, every drop of rain, every mispeled word, is a result of cause and effect. Since we are thinking, reasoning creatures and have created such great acheivments, like wars and the works of great authors and artists, we want to believe that we have absolute control of our lives. We do not. We have as much control of our future as does a leaf blowing in the wind.

The reason we believe that we are in control is we think that something as complex as the human mind must mean we are in control. We do not. But, I could have turned left, but I decided at the last moment to turn right. That proves it. No it does not. It is every moment in your life on this planet, in this galaxy (etc.), that led to the moment where I turned right at that last moment.

I find this as more interesting. In this thinking, I have begun to have no regrets. How can I? Everything that has happened was going to happen. All of this said and done, I'm still voting Bush out of office.

Finally, to paraphase Douglas Adams, "Some believe the moment that someone actually figures out the nature of the universe it will be instantly be replaced by something more inexplicable... Others believe that this has already happened."
 
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  • #32
You may understand or you may not understand what you speak, but your words are correct. Nice first post. Quote from yourself, if it's born there it will have more impact than a billion quotes.
 

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