Is Dieting or Exercise More Effective for Burning Fat?

[JasonRox]

And the net result was that she consumed more calories than she could burn and she gained weight. The excess calories were stored as fat.

Also, how can you say it's from eating?

How do we not know that this was going to occur anyways? And it's just a coincidence that it happened on her dieting time.

During high school, I ate fast food about 10 times a week and never gained a pound! I work at the school cafetaria and Burger King. Naturally fast metabolism and I ate more than I should have. I wasn't active either. I did this for 11 months exact. (I worked at Burger King for 11 months.)

 

[JasonRox]

Yes, any time you eat more calories than you burn, they will get stored as fat.

JasonRox, you obviously weren't eating calories in excess of what you were burning. I know of no magic where excess calories just disappear. If you are burning a high rate of calories due to your level of excersize and metabolism, it may have seemed to you like no matter how much you ate, you could not gain weight, however if you reached a point where you started eating more than you burned, you would start gaining weight, unless you have a rare disorder, but you would more than likely know it. I can't remember the name of the disorder, I haven't read about it in several years. I'm really surprised that you plan to be a personal trainer, yet you don't understand what MIH said. That's pretty basic.

Also, eating 200 calories per day more than you burn may seem like nothing to you, but that's 6,000 excess calories per month, in one year, that meager 200 calories adds up to a weight gain of over 20 pounds. I agree though that people shouldn't obsess if they go over one day, just as long as they don't go over consistently.

Yes, eating more causes you to gain. But faster metabolism burn more calories during rest periods.

If I weight 150 pounds and I have a fast metabolism, and another is the same weight and completely identical but now has a slow metabolism, the doctor will recommend us both to eat 2000 calories a day. Unfortunately, I can eat 2500 and be fine, but the other can not. My "maximum" is much higher than perceived.

So, yeah my body was still burning the calories no doubt.

Note: Naturally, I wouldn't go against what the doctor says, but the doctor will let you know to learn your about your own body. That way you learn what's best for you.

Note: Personal Trainers do not deal with diets.

 

[Math Is Hard]

Also, how can you say it's from eating?

Because she increased her caloric intake but didn't change her activity level.

How do we not know that this was going to occur anyways? And it's just a coincidence that it happened on her dieting time.

When she doesn't keep her calories up, her weight goes down. This is an ongoing situation with her.

During high school, I ate fast food about 10 times a week and never gained a pound! I work at the school cafetaria and Burger King. Naturally fast metabolism and I ate more than I should have. I wasn't active either. I did this for 11 months exact. (I worked at Burger King for 11 months.)

Then you weren't eating "more than you should have". (Whether you were eating "what you should have" nutritionally, that's a whole different story.) But strictly in terms of caloric intake, your body was burning up all the calories you were consuming, so you weren't overeating.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Also, fat doesn't require energy to maintain, but muscle does does, so for every pound of fat you trade for muscle the more energy you expend just doing nothing (so you can eat more and not gain)

Weight training increases muscle mass. The more muscle you have the more calories you burn doing anything i.e. sleeping, running, thinking. This is because it one you weigh more and must do more work for a given activity, also muscle itself must be maintained which costs calories, lastly muscles burn sugar and therefore the more of this burning machinery you have the more you will burn.

These seem to be the explanation for Jason's Magic Fast Metabolism. Having more muscle burns more calories in and of itself.

 

[Azael]

During high school, I ate fast food about 10 times a week and never gained a pound! I work at the school cafetaria and Burger King. Naturally fast metabolism and I ate more than I should have. I wasn't active either. I did this for 11 months exact. (I worked at Burger King for 11 months.)

I knew a guy back in my hometown that was exactly like this and could not gain weight. He wanted to gain weight however and me and another friend feelt like playing a prank on him(this was a couple of years ago and teens sure are dickheads hehe).

So we told him that besides he's regular meals he should add 2 or 3 shakes each day that that contains 40grams of olive oil, 60grams of wheyprotein and 100grams of dextrose. Thats 1000kcal in every shake and a gross amount of high gi carbs along with lots of fat

Sure enough the insulin spikes in addition to the fat made him gain (not quite all muscle though)

 

[Azael]

These seem to be the explanation for Jason's Magic Fast Metabolism. Having more muscle burns more calories in and of itself.

I think the extra kcal burned is just something around 20kcal/pound of muscle if not less. Dont quote me on that number but its nothing magical. I haven't noticed that much of a difference in my metabolism over the last 3 years even though I have added around 25ibs of lean body mass to my frame.

according to this site its only 3-4kcal/ib of muscle
http://www.optimalhealthpartner.com/Media/Myth of muscle as calorie burner.htm
I have no way of knowing how accurate it is though.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I think the extra kcal burned is just something around 20kcal/pound of muscle if not less. Dont quote me on that number but its nothing magical. I haven't noticed that much of a difference in my metabolism over the last 3 years even though I have added around 25ibs of lean body mass to my frame.

according to this site its only 3-4kcal/ib of muscle
http://www.optimalhealthpartner.com/Media/Myth of muscle as calorie burner.htm
I have no way of knowing how accurate it is though.

That site, if accurate, essentially debunks the notion that a lot of muscle burns a lot of calories without doing anything special. The advantage of a large muscle mass for calorie burning is quite negligible.

What's kcal mean? You're writing "3-4kcal" while the sit says "3-4 calories".

 

[Math Is Hard]

1 Calorie = 1 kilocalorie(kcal) = 1000 calories, but...

Colloquially, and in nutrition and food labelling, the term "calorie" almost always refers to the kilogram calorie. This applies only to English text; if an energy measurement is given using a unit symbol then the scientific practice prevails there. A convention of capitalising "Calorie" to refer to the kilogram calorie, with uncapitalised "calorie" referring to the gram calorie, is sometimes proposed, but neither recognized in any official standards, nor commonly followed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilocalorie

Crazy, eh? I seem to remember that they are more fond of using the term "kcal" in England than in the U.S. - I think I remember seeing it on the food labels, but it has been a long time since I was over there. Can someone tell me if that's correct?

 

[somasimple]

Hi,

It was a forgotten time of great Calorie = 1000 little calories.