Is Euclid prerequisite to Archimedes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the works of Euclid and Archimedes, specifically whether knowledge of Euclid is a prerequisite for understanding Archimedes. Participants explore this question in the context of reading classical mathematical texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that while Euclid is technically a prerequisite, practically, one may already possess sufficient knowledge of Euclidean geometry to read Archimedes.
  • Another participant expresses interest in Apollonius of Perga and questions whether his works are also valuable, indicating a broader interest in classical mathematics.
  • A participant shares their experience with Euclid's Elements, noting the challenges faced and the insights gained regarding tangent lines and angles.

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There appears to be a general agreement that some knowledge of Euclid is beneficial, but no consensus on whether it is strictly necessary to complete Euclid before starting Archimedes. Multiple views on the necessity of Euclid and the value of Apollonius remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the texts and their mathematical backgrounds, which may influence their perspectives on the prerequisites for reading Archimedes and Apollonius.

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Hi, I am a high school student interested in physics/math. I decided I wanted to read the Works of Archimedes (or at least start) before graduating. For some reason, it seemed that Euclid was prerequisite to Archimedes, and I wanted to read Euclid anyway, so I started Euclid and am about a third of the way through. I understand it pretty well (although it takes an hour to figure out one page sometimes). Then it hit me that I don't really have to finish all of Euclid before starting Archimedes. So, is Euclid prerequisite to Archimedes?
 
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technically yes, but practically you probably already know enough euclidean geometry to red archimedes. try it.
 
Okay. And I assume that it is the same for Apollonius of Perga. By the way, thank you mathwonk for putting a lot of time and effort on this site. I am sure I'm not the first kid to say that your posts (especially your "who wants to be a mathematician" thread) are very helpful.
 
Will do.
 
Wow... Great post and a great thread. Those guys were truly geniuses. I don't hear much about Apollonius of Perga. Is his book a valuable read? I recently read that part of the Elements concerning tangent lines, and it confused me for a little while until I figured out what he was really saying. Now often when I see a circle I think of how the angle it makes with a tangent line is the "smallest possible angle", and that an infinitely small change in the angle makes the line cut the circle. I'm sure there are a lot more interesting things for me to learn, as I am just a precalculus student.
 

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