News Is Excessive Force by SWAT Teams Justified in Minor Drug Raids?

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A man arrested for drug charges and child endangerment expressed concern over police actions during a SWAT raid at his home, where officers shot two dogs they deemed aggressive. The incident raised questions about the justification for such a forceful approach, especially given that the man was suspected of possessing only small amounts of marijuana. Critics argue that the SWAT team's tactics were excessive, particularly in the presence of children, and suggest that less aggressive methods, like waiting for the suspect to leave his home, would have been more appropriate. The discussion highlights broader concerns about police conduct, the use of military-style raids for non-violent crimes, and the potential for trauma inflicted on families during such operations. Many participants in the discussion criticized the police for prioritizing their safety over the rights and well-being of individuals involved, emphasizing the need for substantial evidence before executing such high-stakes actions. The debate also touched on the implications of informant-based warrants and the potential for abuse of power in law enforcement.
  • #31
Borg said:
What? The owner didn't sue the police for tazering the dog?

Well, the owner and the dog should feel lucky.

Police are automatically authorized to shoot and kill any dog which attacks them or other humans.

I love dogs, and so I commend both officers for restraining the use of lethal countermeasures and instead opting for tazing.
 
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  • #32
pallidin said:
Well, the owner and the dog should feel lucky.

Police are automatically authorized to shoot and kill any dog which attacks them or other humans.

I love dogs, and so I commend both officers for restraining the use of lethal countermeasures and instead opting for tazing.

They killed one of the dogs.
 
  • #33
Proton Soup said:
Not really, these swat raids are just silly. It's a bunch of wannabe warriors that have fun playing soldier when the responsible thing to do in a case like this is just pick the guy up as he's heading out to work in the morning.

But, they want this. They want to do in guns blazing. They want to go in shooting people's dogs as standard operating procedure. It's fun, and it's what they live for.

My my my, such speculation. Have you personally talked to or asked said officers about how much 'fun' they think it is raiding a suspected drug dealers house, or did you just speak for them? As for wether or not the responsbile thing to do is pick up the guy heading to work, you don't know that either. However, a trained LEO can. His opinion, would hold water: yours, not so much. My question to you is: in what way are you qualified to make such statements concerning how the police should conduct their raids?

Side note: That cat is wearing goggles! CRAZY I tell you, CRAZY!
 
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  • #34
I listened to the video again and just realized that the Rottweiller was only 6 months old. How the hell does someone get a dog to be that vicious that fast?
 
  • #35
Cyrus said:
My my my, such speculation. Have you personally talked to or asked said officers about how much 'fun' they think it is raiding a suspected drug dealers house, or did you just speak for them? As for wether or not the responsbile thing to do is pick up the guy heading to work, you don't know that either. However, a trained LEO can. His opinion, would hold water: yours, not so much. My question to you is: in what way are you qualified to make such statements concerning how the police should conduct their raids?

Side note: That cat is wearing goggles! CRAZY I tell you, CRAZY!

i know, i love that cat.

as for the LEOs in question, they were so worried about how violent this guy is that they actually knocked on the door and waited for him to open it. that's just CRAZY i tell you, CRAZY11!11!11

but these are hard times, y'know, and with all the overtime/bonus pay/justifying ones existence, who can really blame the guys, amirite?
 
  • #36
and while I'm having fruit shaken from my branches, here's another plum.

what is the ultimate purpose of this type of LEO behaviour? because the more i chew my cud on it, the more i think SHOCK & AWE. is the purpose of this type of assault to get a suspect to be so fearful that they stop thinking rationally and spill their guts ? this guy was pretty rational, he wanted a lawyer right away. but then, he's not a tweaking methhead, either.

anyone else have any thoughts or knowledge re this tactic ?
 
  • #37
Borg said:
I listened to the video again and just realized that the Rottweiller was only 6 months old. How the hell does someone get a dog to be that vicious that fast?

They don't, the police did NOT shoot the dog's in self-defense they shot them in a 'preventive measure'.
 
  • #38
Cyrus said:
My question to you is: in what way are you qualified to make such statements concerning how the police should conduct their raids?

Police are not the people who set the laws or decide how anything SHOULD be conducted. That's a great thing about living in a democracy, it's what the PEOPLE think. And I think people should take a stand against these idiotic raids.

As well I HAVE talked to police officers from America who agree 100% with what I've stated. Who have YOU talked to so you can so boldly assert that only police can have valid opinions? Or is that just your opinion? They also say that officers DO shoot dogs as preventive measure in these raids and the majority of the time it is not in self-defense. The law needs to be changed, or do you think that police officers are the only people who can have a valid opinion on that too?
Please.

Yet another useless post to chalk up for you Cyrus.
 
  • #39
zomgwtf said:
Police are not the people who set the laws or decide how anything SHOULD be conducted. That's a great thing about living in a democracy, it's what the PEOPLE think.
People are idiots and have overly strong opinions about things they know almost nothing about.. Fortunately, we live in a representative democracy, so the people who set the rules and guidelines actually have some knowledge about what they're doing, rather than a knee-jerk reaction.
 
  • #40
Hurkyl said:
People are idiots. Fortunately, we live in a representative democracy -- so the people who set the rules and guidelines actually have some knowledge about what they're doing, rather than a knee-jerk reaction.

Uh, that's not true. A representative democracy just means that there is a person elected to represent the people. It has nothing to do with that persons qualifications, only if that person shall best represent what the people want. If the people call for a change a change shall be made. Doesn't matter what form of democracy you have. The only thing that changes is if all people are required to attend to vote.
 
  • #41
zomgwtf said:
Police are not the people who set the laws or decide how anything SHOULD be conducted. That's a great thing about living in a democracy, it's what the PEOPLE think. And I think people should take a stand against these idiotic raids.

I never said the police set the laws, anywhere.

As well I HAVE talked to police officers from America who agree 100% with what I've stated. Who have YOU talked to so you can so boldly assert that only police can have valid opinions? Or is that just your opinion? They also say that officers DO shoot dogs as preventive measure in these raids and the majority of the time it is not in self-defense. The law needs to be changed, or do you think that police officers are the only people who can have a valid opinion on that too?
Please.

Yet another useless post to chalk up for you Cyrus.

You know, talking LIKE THIS, does not MAKE YOUR POINT. It makes you, LOOK FOOLISH. COMPRENDE?
 
  • #42
This topic has been beaten to heck. Closed.
 

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