Is f(x) Constant Based on Given Derivative and Inequality?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a differentiable function f(x) and its relationship to given inequalities and limits. The original poster presents a problem that requires showing that f(x) is constant under certain conditions involving its derivative and an inequality involving the difference of function values.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of the inequality |f(x)-f(y)| ≤ (x-y)² and its relationship to the derivative of f. Some suggest using the Squeeze Theorem, while others consider whether calculus is necessary for the proof. There are attempts to clarify the conditions under which f'(x) approaches zero and how that relates to the behavior of g(x) defined in a subsequent question.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various insights and approaches to the original problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of limits and the Mean Value Theorem, while others are questioning the assumptions and the necessity of certain conditions for the proofs being discussed.

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There are mentions of specific conditions such as continuity and differentiability that are relevant to the application of certain theorems. Participants also express uncertainty about the implications of their findings and the rigor required in their proofs.

  • #31
HACR said:
I'm somehow not convinced that that represents f'(x) why not f'(y) since writing x as y+Δy allows the Newton's quotient to be f'(y).

i.e. lim_ {\delta y->0}\frac {f(y+\triangle y)-f(y)}{y+\triangle y -y}≤ \triangle y

I worked out all the kinks. Don't worry.

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  • #32
Jamin2112 said:
Choose y such that 0 < y < ∞. The function f(y)/y is continuous on [0, y] and differentiable on (0, y), so there exists an x in (0, y) such that (f(x)/x)' = [f(y) - f(0)]/[y - 0] = f(y) / y. Am I close?

Close yes. :smile:
It should be: f'(x) = [f(y) - f(0)]/[y - 0] = f(y) / y
 
  • #33
I like Serena said:
Close yes. :smile:
It should be: f'(x) = [f(y) - f(0)]/[y - 0] = f(y) / y

Got it.

Choose x with 0 < x < ∞. The function f is continuous on [0, x] and differential on (0, x). Thus, by the Mean Value Theorem, this exists an x0 with 0 < x0 < x and

f(x) = f(x) - f(0) = f '(x0) * (x - 0) = x * f '(x0).

Because f ' is monotonically increasing and x > 0, we have x * f '(x0) ≤ x * f '(x) and accordingly x * f '(x) ≥ f(x), as desired.

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