Is f(x) Idempotent for Any Matrix B in M2(R)?

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The discussion centers on the idempotency of a polynomial function defined by a matrix in the context of linear algebra. Participants explore the conditions under which the polynomial \( f(x) = Mx + B \), where \( M \) is a specific matrix and \( B \) is a matrix in \( M_2(\mathbb{R}) \), is idempotent. The conversation includes both theoretical aspects and calculations related to matrix operations.

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  • One participant presents a proof regarding idempotent elements in a division ring, noting that only 0 and 1 exist as idempotents.
  • Another participant questions the interpretation of the first part of the query and suggests calculating \( f(x)^2 \) to find conditions on \( B \) for idempotency.
  • A third participant outlines the calculation of \( (Mx + B)^2 \) and expresses the need to determine \( M^2 \) and the necessary conditions on \( B \) for equality with \( Mx + B \).
  • A subsequent post identifies the matrix \( M \) explicitly and suggests that calculating \( M^2 \) and the products \( MB \) and \( BM \) will aid in finding the conditions on \( B \).

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Participants generally agree on the approach of calculating \( f(x)^2 \) and comparing it to \( f(x) \) to determine the conditions for idempotency. However, there is no consensus on the specific values of \( B \) that would satisfy this condition, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact requirements.

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Limitations include the need for further clarification on the calculations involving matrix products and the specific form of \( B \). The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary to conclude the idempotency condition.

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My professor gave us this query at the end of class, it contained two parts.
1. Show a ring is idempotent
2. Consider the degree one polynomial f(x) is an element of M2(R)[x] given by
f(x) = [0 1
______0 0]x + B
(so f(x) = the matrix []x + B).
For which B is an element of M2(R), if any, is f(x) idempotent?

I proved part 1:
If a2 = a, then a2 - a = a(a-1) = 0. If a does not equal 0, then a-1 exists in R and we have a-1 = (a-1a)(a-1) = a-1[a(a-1)] = a-10 = 0, so a-1 = 0 and a = 1. Thus 0 and 1 are hte only two idempotent elements in a division ring.

Part 2 I simply have no idea on though. How do I do this with a matrix?
 
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DanielThrice said:
1. Show a ring is idempotent

I really fail to understand what you mean with this. In your proof, you seem to prove that a division ring has only two idempotents. This is of course correct. Is that what you mean by this question?

2. Consider the degree one polynomial f(x) is an element of M2(R)[x] given by
f(x) = [0 1
______0 0]x + B
(so f(x) = the matrix []x + B).
For which B is an element of M2(R), if any, is f(x) idempotent?

Well, you only have to calculate f(x)2 and compare it to f(x). For what values of B are they equal??
 


This is my progress so far...

Well, call the matrix M. Then you want that (Mx+B)^2=Mx+B in M2R[x][/math]. So we just have to perform the calculation and see what we get,

(Mx+B)^2=MxMx + MxB + BMx+B^2 = M^2x^2+(MB + BM)x + B^2 (the x-terms act like this (commutatively) by definition).

So, what is M^2? What must B be for M^2x^2+(MB + BM)x + B^2 = Mx+B?
 


Well, you know what M is: it is just the matrix

[tex]M=\left(\begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1\\ 0 & 0\end{array}\right)[/tex]

So you can easily calculate M2. Furthermore, if you denote B by

[tex]B=\left(\begin{array}{cc} a & b\\ c & d\end{array}\right)[/tex]

then it's not hard to calculate MB and BM...
 

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