Is IPv8 the Future of Internet Protocol? Tracking the IPv4EC Project

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the availability of IPv4 addresses and the implications of transitioning to IPv6, with references to the IPv4EC project. Participants explore concerns about the depletion of IPv4 addresses, the historical context of internet protocols, and humorous takes on the situation.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that there are less than 950,000 IPv4 addresses available, raising concerns about future availability.
  • Questions are posed about why a Y2K-like scenario did not occur regarding IPv4 address depletion.
  • Humorous suggestions are made about invoking internet deities or invading countries to reclaim IP addresses.
  • Participants express skepticism about the reliability of the IPv4EC project's claims regarding available addresses.
  • There is mention of dynamic IP allocation, with some arguing that it does not significantly impact the overall availability of addresses.
  • References are made to the last blocks of IPv4 addresses being allocated, with some expressing frustration over the lack of foresight in managing IP address resources.
  • Some participants highlight the existence of IPv6 as a solution to the IPv4 address shortage.
  • Curiosity is expressed about the status of IPv5, with some humorously suggesting it was abandoned for synchronization with Internet Explorer versions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of concerns and humor regarding the depletion of IPv4 addresses, with no clear consensus on the implications or solutions. Some acknowledge the role of IPv6, while others question the management of IP resources.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative and humorous remarks, which may not reflect serious technical analysis. There is uncertainty regarding the actual status of IP address availability and the effectiveness of dynamic allocation.

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232 is less catchy?
 
Well, how about some breaking news headlines like "internet inferno imminent"
 
If we start praying to the lord's of the internet perhaps they could help us to avoid this calamity! Why could we not foresee how we would ravage our digital environment with such poor management of the online environment...

Oh! Great lord's of the internet, come down from Big Ben and shine your green LED of internet access on us that we may bask in the blue LED of good wireless connection.
 
maybe we could invade another country and rescue their IP addresses from the terrorists
 
less than two hours to zero, I would estimate.
 
The number is going up? 16 mil right now.
 
Hepth said:
The number is going up? 16 mil right now.
Twenty million now. The site is not to be taken seriously, it has nothing to do with available IP addresses.
 
  • #10
It looks like no name website:
http://inetcore.com/

*no, actually I got redirected. Earlier, I saw error page in Japanese. But, I don't understand if it is a fake home page or company is small (thus does not anything other than one page message).
 
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hey, don't forget that a lot of IPs are allocated dynamically :wink:
 
  • #12
Proton Soup said:
hey, don't forget that a lot of IPs are allocated dynamically :wink:
But they're allocated out of already assigned blocks, so there is no impact.
 
  • #13
And the last blocks have been allocated. This just showed up on Slashdot:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/01/0036227/Last-Available-IPv4-Blocks-Allocated

"Following on from APNIC's earlier assessment that they would need to request the last available /8 blocks, they have now been allocated 39/8 and 106/8, triggering ARIN's final distribution of blocks to the RIRs. According to the release, 'APNIC expects normal allocations to continue for a further three to six months.'"

I think it's pretty lame that we've gotten to this point. It's not like it's a surprise this was coming, and yet just about everyone responsible has ignored it completely. That's people for you.
 
  • #14
Grep said:
And the last blocks have been allocated. This just showed up on Slashdot:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/01/0036227/Last-Available-IPv4-Blocks-Allocated

"Following on from APNIC's earlier assessment that they would need to request the last available /8 blocks, they have now been allocated 39/8 and 106/8, triggering ARIN's final distribution of blocks to the RIRs. According to the release, 'APNIC expects normal allocations to continue for a further three to six months.'"

I think it's pretty lame that we've gotten to this point. It's not like it's a surprise this was coming, and yet just about everyone responsible has ignored it completely. That's people for you.
They can ping the class c's and take back anything that's not active. I have ISP's that have multiple class c's and they must be active to keep them.
 
  • #15
Anything that's not active ... like in Egypt :smile:
 
  • #16
I have to say, my first reaction was still... well... that's why we have IPv6! I'm glad Evo was there... I would have been confuuuuuuused otherwise.
 
  • #17
Zryn said:
Anything that's not active ... like in Egypt :smile:

see post #6 :-p
 
  • #18
Proton Soup said:
see post #6 :-p

O. M. G.


24... Season NINE: Jack Bauer spends 23 hours torturing a roomful of IT workers in Egypt until he realizes that you can't put the internet in a rear naked choke. The last hour will be him making apologies and then telling people about IPv6.

Just cut me in on an agent's fee... I'm guessing it'll HEEEUUUUUGGGGEEE. :wink:
 
  • #19
nismaratwork said:
I have to say, my first reaction was still... well... that's why we have IPv6! I'm glad Evo was there... I would have been confuuuuuuused otherwise.

So...what happened to IPv5 :confused:?
 
  • #20
lisab said:
So...what happened to IPv5 :confused:?

Research was abandoned.

And here I was hoping for an internet apocalypse.
 
  • #21
lisab said:
So...what happened to IPv5 :confused:?

2 pages, and you're the first person with the um... well (not balls)... "ovarian fortitude" to ask that very obvious question! I think you should get a confetti shower and cash prizes now. :wink:
 
  • #22
nismaratwork said:
2 pages, and you're the first person with the um... well (not balls)... "ovarian fortitude" to ask that very obvious question! I think you should get a confetti shower and cash prizes now. :wink:

they were obviously just trying to sync up with IE 6. so might as well skip to IPv8 now.
 
  • #23
Proton Soup said:
they were obviously just trying to sync up with IE 6. so might as well skip to IPv8 now.

That's why I still own a Motorola portable phone from the early 90's! :wink:

Seriously, I just read an article that the average "smart phone" lifecycle is 4 MONTHS, down from 3-5 YEARS. If it weren't for need, I think your joke would be bloody real!
 

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