News Is Iraq Now Ruling Itself? From AP

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The U.S.-led coalition's transfer of sovereignty to an interim Iraqi government was expedited by two days to potentially thwart insurgent attacks planned for the original handover date. This move sparked discussions about its implications, with some viewing it as a strategic victory that could undermine insurgent morale. However, skepticism remained regarding the effectiveness of the new government, which many considered a "puppet" regime still under U.S. influence. The ongoing violence and instability in Iraq raised concerns about the government's ability to maintain order and the potential for continued attacks from various factions, particularly radical Sunnis who may see the new government as a threat to their influence. The discussion also touched on the role of media in shaping public perception of the Iraq War and historical parallels with the Vietnam War, highlighting the complexities of military intervention and the challenges of achieving lasting peace and stability in conflict zones.
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Njorl said:
There is a small amount of truth to that. Very small.

For the first six years of the war, media coverage consisted of whatever the government decided to spoon-feed to the media. We were not winning then either. However, we were certainly not losing it.

For the Vietnamese to win, they needed the American people to realize that we had no interest in winning that stupid war.

For the Americans to win, we needed to kill most of the 20+ million Vietnamese.

When the media coverage became honest, it made victory for the Vietnamese possible. Even when the media were being tools for Johnson, there was no chance of American victory. We simply could not be monstrous enough to win, even in secret.

So, I suppose you could say that the behavior of the American media was an integral ingredient of our defeat in Vietnam. Considering that defeat was most likely inevitable, and that victory would have required a holocaust, the media did the nation a service by switching to real, honest reporting on the war.

Njorl

Well said Njorl.
The Vietnamise wanted the French out most of all. If we'd been listening we might have seen that Ho Chi Minh actually admired the USA. Had we not acted out of shear fear of communism Vietnam could very well have moved toward the center and westernised. Too bad such notions could not be heard over the din of the cold war.
 

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