Is it lucky to have a house like this?

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The discussion revolves around the financial challenges and aspirations of a user who has recently purchased a house and is contemplating the costs of living in New York. The user expresses a strong desire for wealth, outlining specific financial goals, including owning multiple properties and making significant charitable contributions. This ambition is met with criticism from other participants, who argue that the user's obsession with material wealth is unhealthy and detrimental to personal happiness. They emphasize the importance of finding contentment in life beyond financial success, suggesting that true wealth lies in relationships and experiences rather than possessions. The conversation also touches on the moral implications of wealth and charity, with some participants questioning the sincerity of the user's philanthropic intentions. Overall, the thread highlights a conflict between the pursuit of financial goals and the pursuit of personal fulfillment and happiness.
  • #31
I forgot to mention that we need scholarships because the rich take all the money and give very little back to the poor.

Note: This was an implicit statement in my post above.
 
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  • #32
Ummm...she's a he.
 
  • #33
I am not afraid of your misunderstanding about me,
I scare no mocking,
I definitely will fullfil my words when i achieve what i want to achieve.

Life must have dream, dream of having a lot of money is not wrong, only the lazy persons will say NO to "earning a lot of money to help the poor".

Don't laugh, you don't know what will happen in the future, God will bless my ways if I walk in his path.
 
  • #34
Saint said:
I am truly unhappy, because:

1) I have a TV, only 25" Panasonic Flat screen, but i want 54" Plasma TV
2) I have a notebook, running at 2.4GHz Intel Celeron, but i want Athlon 64FX or intel P4 3.0GHZ HT notebook
3) I have house, but i want a 10,000 sqft bungalow with swimming pool and small golf.
4) i have a 1500cc Proton Wira car, but i want BMW 530
5) i can do charity, but one time i donate only about 20USD, I want to donate 20,000USD and still have enough money in my bank account


Ok, now that's just irritating.

I have a single 13 inch TV. Neither flat screen nor plasma, its a $50 (US) TV, with a universal remote for $10 because i don't have the original remote and had to go through 2 universals to find one that worked.

I have a notebook, 4 years old, 1.4 Ghz, I wish i could get a new one, but i can't, oh well.

I have no car.

I ahve no spare money to donate, or to buy a new computer, or to by a new tv, or to buy anything, except rent, food, and tuition.

And guess what? I'm just fine. Stop whining.

Edit: And given that I'm going to college and still have those things, I'ms till better off than the vast majority of people in the world. So you have even less reason to complain.
 
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  • #35
Saint said:
I am not afraid of your misunderstanding about me,
I scare no mocking,
I definitely will fullfil my words when i achieve what i want to achieve.

Life must have dream, dream of having a lot of money is not wrong, only the lazy persons will say NO to "earning a lot of money to help the poor".

Don't laugh, you don't know what will happen in the future, God will bless my ways if I walk in his path.

Ok so as you don't think I am mocking you, let me be blunt. you're greedy, and you disgust me. Outright greeed is something I'm quite accustomed to seeing. Trying to mask your greed by pretending to have philanthropy at heart is just pathetic.

We get what your actual goals are.. so instead whining, work hard and achieve the goals you want.. don't "bless us" with your kind hearted guestures, because no one here is buying into it And don't mention god because it's quite obvious you're all about worshipping the green. If you want to be rich, then don't talk about helping the poor.

You know, I'm going to let this post stand instead of editing it. I'm just saying what many are thinking.

Thanks

Have a nice day :biggrin:
 
  • #36
Saint said:
I am not afraid of your misunderstanding about me,
I scare no mocking,
I definitely will fullfil my words when i achieve what i want to achieve.

Life must have dream, dream of having a lot of money is not wrong, only the lazy persons will say NO to "earning a lot of money to help the poor".

Don't laugh, you don't know what will happen in the future, God will bless my ways if I walk in his path.


I second Zantra's post. Your "charity" is a pathetic excuse to moralize your unrepentant greed. No one needs a 54" plasma flat screen for any reason. Period. To establish that as one of your significant, life goals is revolting. I feel very sorry for your family that they have to live with those attitudes in person.
 
  • #37
I have to agree with Zantra and franz.

"Saint", I find your "use" of Christianity revolting. Especially in light of your seeming obsession with sex and beautiful women. I also seem to recall a thread in which you posted a picture of your mistress (which you later deleted), and asked us if we thought she was pretty. The you proceeded to say something to the effect of "Shhhh. Don't tell my wife." You're a real poor excuse for a Christian, "Saint".
I, too, feel very sorry for your wife and children.
 
  • #38
If you understand Malay, Saint, remember the Peribahasa:

Hujan emas di negara orang lain, hujan batu di negara sendiri, baik juga di negara sendiri
 
  • #39
Saint said:
I am not afraid of your misunderstanding about me,
I scare no mocking,
I definitely will fullfil my words when i achieve what i want to achieve.
Making those emotions work for you, are we?
Life must have dream, dream of having a lot of money is not wrong, only the lazy persons will say NO to "earning a lot of money to help the poor"
The love of money is the root of all evil, ever hear that one before? Now here this;
…without $$$, I am not happy…
You love it don’t you?
Don't laugh, you don't know what will happen in the future, God will bless my ways if I walk in his path.
I only laugh when thinking about what a twisted puppy you come across as (takes one to know one, haha). In any event since you’ve admitted you don’t know what will happen in the future I wouldn’t be quick to assume God’s blessing need amount to anything in this life whatsoever.

Despite all that, I do wish you good luck in your endeavors.
 
  • #40
Greed?
You all don't know how to differentiate between GREED and AMBITION.

I can't see any reason why I can not desire for 54" plasma TV, BMW530, 10,000 sqft bungalow etc....
Anything wrong? :bugeye:

I have come across a lot of donation requests, but i can't donate in all cases, because i have not enough money in my pocket, i feel sorry, therefore, i need to make more money for doing charity, is that wrong? Hypocrisy?

I justify myself based on this:
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 23.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
 
  • #41
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Mr._Ka-shing_Lee

I just want to learn from this Mr. Lee.
Anything wrong?
 
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  • #42
"In 1981, Li's donations resulted in the founding of Shantou University, near his hometown of Chaozhou"

He donated money to setup a university in China, to benefit the poor students there.
My scholarship plan has the same objective.
 
  • #43
I don't have a problem with your greed. But when it overshadows other things like the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom, meeting interesting people and making friends, and making meaningful contributions to society, then it becomes something that is shallow; it makes you a shallow person. That's why you're getting negative responses, because it seems like you're wasting away so much energy and intelligence in pursuit of a shallow, juvenile goal. The things that you surround yourself with in praise of your life are just that- things, they are meaningless symbols of your meaningless hard work. When money is all you're living for, your life is wasteful.
 
  • #44
teach me, how should i view money?
 
  • #45
It should be a means, not an end in itself. Do you understand what I mean by that? You should make money to live (and to do other things), but you shouldn't live to make money.
 
  • #46
I agree, therefore i said i want to make a lot of money to achieve my DREAMS of possessing many materials i desire, at the same time, to help needy people.
is this hypocrisy?
 
  • #47
I don't think you understood. Let me rephrase: your own carnal hedonistic shallow pleasures should not be your main reason to live. There's nothing wrong with wanting material things, but that shouldn't be your greatest aim in life, since such a life is shallow and meaningless. These material things should make it easier to pursue other, worthier goals. It's good that you want to donate to charity, but that's not your reason for wanting to make money; you want money for material things, and for charity only secondly.
 
  • #48
When you want lots of money strictly for social reasons and materialistic I think it can be dangerous (you let your life go to waste IMO). It is bad to let your identity be synonymous with what you own.

I want money so I can never have to worry about making money and then completely focus on what I enjoy doing. Money is just a means for me in that way--not something to buy big homes, exotic cars, breast implants for the women and 10 million dollars of jewels :P

Money can give me the ability to spend more time with friends and girls (hopefully a special one someday...). Money can buy the time and fees to take pilot lessons. This is something I cannot do now but want :) Though I'm sure I can live with just watching Discovery's Wings channel :cry:
 
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  • #49
Saint,

What good are material things before and after life (infinite time), and more important than they during life (finite time)? Money can be beneficial, but only if utilized wisely.

My guess is that you have witnessed the shaming of devastating poverty, and react to that trauma with a failed attempt to impress others using wealth as your primary personal value. No one desires to suffer without purpose, but to avoid conflict by money neglects one's responsibility to empathize with those suffering and to help right the world ourselves.

I suggest you seek out the many stories of riches gone awry, and of the virtuous poor.
 
  • #50
some of you may ...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/junzi.bmp
 
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  • #51
I believe this formula:

Money == H.O.B.D.C

C= Capability (IQ,EQ etc.)
H = hard word
D = Desire + Determination to make more money
O = Opportunity
B = Blessing from God.

I really want to have bigger house, better car, more money in bank, buy more insurance... is that wrong desire? If follow this formula, I think, i can achieve more than what i have now.

And, i never forget ------ HEALTH.
So, i always take care of my body, to make sure it still can work in healthy way,
without health, money will be useless to me.
 
  • #52
Tsunami said:
I have to agree with Zantra and franz.

"Saint", I find your "use" of Christianity revolting. Especially in light of your seeming obsession with sex and beautiful women. I also seem to recall a thread in which you posted a picture of your mistress (which you later deleted), and asked us if we thought she was pretty. The you proceeded to say something to the effect of "Shhhh. Don't tell my wife." You're a real poor excuse for a Christian, "Saint".
I, too, feel very sorry for your wife and children.

you mean this girl?

yes, i admitted i downloaded it from porn site,
because i think she is tempting and sexy,
but just for fun.

I am a virtual Saint, not true Saint.
just a mortal man. :smile:
 
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  • #53
It also indicates low self esteem. People need outer superficial extravagance to compensate for inner hollowness. I can see this in Saint's posts.
 
  • #54
Well, no. That was NOT the picture. Although I'm sure the Christian minister of you church would be THRILLED to know one of his parishoners frequents a PORN site. You're the perverted type of indivudual that give Christians a real bad name, you know that? You don't have a clue of what being a Christian is all about.
 
  • #55
Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?
 
  • #56
Saint said:
you mean this girl?
corina_05.jpg


yes, i admitted i downloaded it from porn site,
because i think she is tempting and sexy,
but just for fun.

I am a virtual Saint, not true Saint.
just a mortal man. :smile:
Hahaha, well that tears it then, you are definitely the funniest person at PF ! :smile:
 
  • #57
Saint may be capitalism's worst nightmare.
 
  • #58
Saint said:
I believe this formula:

Money == H.O.B.D.C

C= Capability (IQ,EQ etc.)
H = hard word
D = Desire + Determination to make more money
O = Opportunity
B = Blessing from God.

This reminds me of the Drake Equation. :biggrin:
 
  • #59
Saint said:
Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?
Like going to a porn site, playing with myself, then looking down on those immoral women for having caused a hideous and involuntary erection in an otherwise holy man !
(to borrow a phrase from St. Augustine)

...there ought to be a law, hahaha :biggrin:
 
  • #60
Loren Booda said:
Saint,

What good are material things before and after life (infinite time), and more important than they during life (finite time)? Money can be beneficial, but only if utilized wisely.

My guess is that you have witnessed the shaming of devastating poverty, and react to that trauma with a failed attempt to impress others using wealth as your primary personal value. No one desires to suffer without purpose, but to avoid conflict by money neglects one's responsibility to empathize with those suffering and to help right the world ourselves.

I suggest you seek out the many stories of riches gone awry, and of the virtuous poor.

Agreed!

Quick story that might help:
I grew up pretty poor. I didn't get Christmas presents growing up for many years (never blamed my parents though) and it was hard because I wanted to enjoy it when other kids I knew had new crap. I started working a little too young (first paper route by age 7, had to have my parents sign off on it).

By the time I was a teenager I became enveloped with the idea of making lots of money. As fate would have it my family came into quite a lot of money from relatives who passed. I realized after a while that it could bring no happiness and I'd much rather have those relatives alive (of course, I never wanted them to die in the first place! that was just how the money came into play...)

Money never changed who we are as people and I like that. My parents still haven't taken a trip in 25+ years. They didn't go buy a mansion and yacht. I'm glad that I learned this early on in my life and didn't trudge through it becoming a business major like I had wanted to at the time. As sad as the deaths were it helped me grow in many more ways than I thought possible! :wink:
 

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