Is it lucky to have a house like this?

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The discussion revolves around the financial challenges and aspirations of a user who has recently purchased a house and is contemplating the costs of living in New York. The user expresses a strong desire for wealth, outlining specific financial goals, including owning multiple properties and making significant charitable contributions. This ambition is met with criticism from other participants, who argue that the user's obsession with material wealth is unhealthy and detrimental to personal happiness. They emphasize the importance of finding contentment in life beyond financial success, suggesting that true wealth lies in relationships and experiences rather than possessions. The conversation also touches on the moral implications of wealth and charity, with some participants questioning the sincerity of the user's philanthropic intentions. Overall, the thread highlights a conflict between the pursuit of financial goals and the pursuit of personal fulfillment and happiness.
  • #51
I believe this formula:

Money == H.O.B.D.C

C= Capability (IQ,EQ etc.)
H = hard word
D = Desire + Determination to make more money
O = Opportunity
B = Blessing from God.

I really want to have bigger house, better car, more money in bank, buy more insurance... is that wrong desire? If follow this formula, I think, i can achieve more than what i have now.

And, i never forget ------ HEALTH.
So, i always take care of my body, to make sure it still can work in healthy way,
without health, money will be useless to me.
 
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  • #52
Tsunami said:
I have to agree with Zantra and franz.

"Saint", I find your "use" of Christianity revolting. Especially in light of your seeming obsession with sex and beautiful women. I also seem to recall a thread in which you posted a picture of your mistress (which you later deleted), and asked us if we thought she was pretty. The you proceeded to say something to the effect of "Shhhh. Don't tell my wife." You're a real poor excuse for a Christian, "Saint".
I, too, feel very sorry for your wife and children.

you mean this girl?

yes, i admitted i downloaded it from porn site,
because i think she is tempting and sexy,
but just for fun.

I am a virtual Saint, not true Saint.
just a mortal man. :smile:
 
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  • #53
It also indicates low self esteem. People need outer superficial extravagance to compensate for inner hollowness. I can see this in Saint's posts.
 
  • #54
Well, no. That was NOT the picture. Although I'm sure the Christian minister of you church would be THRILLED to know one of his parishoners frequents a PORN site. You're the perverted type of indivudual that give Christians a real bad name, you know that? You don't have a clue of what being a Christian is all about.
 
  • #55
Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?
 
  • #56
Saint said:
you mean this girl?
corina_05.jpg


yes, i admitted i downloaded it from porn site,
because i think she is tempting and sexy,
but just for fun.

I am a virtual Saint, not true Saint.
just a mortal man. :smile:
Hahaha, well that tears it then, you are definitely the funniest person at PF ! :smile:
 
  • #57
Saint may be capitalism's worst nightmare.
 
  • #58
Saint said:
I believe this formula:

Money == H.O.B.D.C

C= Capability (IQ,EQ etc.)
H = hard word
D = Desire + Determination to make more money
O = Opportunity
B = Blessing from God.

This reminds me of the Drake Equation. :biggrin:
 
  • #59
Saint said:
Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?
Like going to a porn site, playing with myself, then looking down on those immoral women for having caused a hideous and involuntary erection in an otherwise holy man !
(to borrow a phrase from St. Augustine)

...there ought to be a law, hahaha :biggrin:
 
  • #60
Loren Booda said:
Saint,

What good are material things before and after life (infinite time), and more important than they during life (finite time)? Money can be beneficial, but only if utilized wisely.

My guess is that you have witnessed the shaming of devastating poverty, and react to that trauma with a failed attempt to impress others using wealth as your primary personal value. No one desires to suffer without purpose, but to avoid conflict by money neglects one's responsibility to empathize with those suffering and to help right the world ourselves.

I suggest you seek out the many stories of riches gone awry, and of the virtuous poor.

Agreed!

Quick story that might help:
I grew up pretty poor. I didn't get Christmas presents growing up for many years (never blamed my parents though) and it was hard because I wanted to enjoy it when other kids I knew had new crap. I started working a little too young (first paper route by age 7, had to have my parents sign off on it).

By the time I was a teenager I became enveloped with the idea of making lots of money. As fate would have it my family came into quite a lot of money from relatives who passed. I realized after a while that it could bring no happiness and I'd much rather have those relatives alive (of course, I never wanted them to die in the first place! that was just how the money came into play...)

Money never changed who we are as people and I like that. My parents still haven't taken a trip in 25+ years. They didn't go buy a mansion and yacht. I'm glad that I learned this early on in my life and didn't trudge through it becoming a business major like I had wanted to at the time. As sad as the deaths were it helped me grow in many more ways than I thought possible! :wink:
 
  • #61
Tsunami said:
Well, no. That was NOT the picture. Although I'm sure the Christian minister of you church would be THRILLED to know one of his parishoners frequents a PORN site. You're the perverted type of indivudual that give Christians a real bad name, you know that? You don't have a clue of what being a Christian is all about.

Christianity is all about not judging people and loving them unconditionally :wink:
 
  • #62
Saint said:
Anyone here NEVER felt the Pressure of life?
When the prices of petrol, electricity, water, etc... daily needs increased except your salary, how do you feel?

Sure, but you're talking about wants, not needs.
 
  • #63
why must we stop at what we NEED?
why can't we pursue what we WANT more than what we need?

When we measure length, we have a standard reference, e.g. ruler which is calibrated.
Now, when you judge my words, what Frame of Reference do you use?
Based on what standard you evaluate me?
Why do you think I am wrong?
Your set value is not absolute, not qualified to evalute mine and say that I am Shallow.

It is absolutely nothing wrong to desire for better materials in our life.
Nothing morally wrong to eat every meal in restaurant if you can afford it, the only concern is your helath.
 
  • #64
Immorality = doing harm to oneself and others.

Based on this definition, Nothing wrong to pursue materials.
 
  • #65
Saint,
Immorality = doing harm to oneself and others.
Based on this definition, Nothing wrong to pursue materials.
Unless you deny them to those with a legitimate need.
 
  • #66
I take pity on poor people, but it is not my fault to cause them poor.
I am blameless for the inequity in the society,
my pursuing of better life with abundant materials does not harm anyone,
therefore, my conscience is guiltless.

But that's not my only goal,
I want to help people and hope for no return-----------Honestly!
 
  • #67
You need to just enjoy and appreciate what you have.

Love life.

Note: You do not love life. Yes, I do know.
 
  • #68
Nothing wrong to pursue richness in terms of money, this what a Typical American ask for...

Buy these books and read.

1)The Automatic Millionaire : A Powerful One-Step Plan to Live and Finish Rich
by David Bach (Author)

2)The One Minute Millionaire : The Enlightened Way to Wealth [ABRIDGED]
by MARK VICTOR HANSEN (Narrator), ROBERT G. ALLEN (Narrator)

3) Rich Dad, Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money--That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not!
by Robert T. Kiyosaki, Sharon L. Lechter

And many others, go to amazon.com and buy :smile:
 
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  • #70
nice houses in malaysia

H205.jpg
 
  • #71
Saint, judging by your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you're either worryingly weird or just trolling. What other reason would possibly make you want to share all the stuff you do with a bunch of people you don't know on an internet forum?
 
  • #72
I checked in the web and found that the houses in UK are very lousily designed from outside. And most of them are only having 2 rooms 1 bath, but costly up to 100,000 pounds.
 
  • #73
It is weird to feel weird about talking about house and car.
 
  • #74
Those houses you show may be expensive, but from what I can tell they derive from cookie-cutter architecture, like those of the nouveau-riche where I live. I am sure you all have much better in the way of style and taste.
 
  • #75
Saint, I'm sure you could find us nicer looking houses than that. Personally, I think those are ugly.
 
  • #76
How much those mansions can go for? :wink:
 

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  • #77
Saint said:
nice houses in malaysia

H205.jpg

These would run about 600K to 1mill in LA depending on location
 
  • #78
tumor said:
How much those mansions can go for? :wink:

These are hell, against human basic right.
 
  • #79
check said:
Saint, I'm sure you could find us nicer looking houses than that. Personally, I think those are ugly.


Personally? They're objectively ugly.


Zantra said:
These would run about 600K to 1mill in LA depending on location

Suburbs are nice. Half that for houses that size, and so much better looking houses than those.
 
  • #80
A nice house will depend on its interior design too...
Spacious masterbedroom, living hall, has dry and wet kitchen, family hall upstair, balcony, small garden for relaxing, nice color of painting, arrangement of furniture...etc., all count!
 
  • #81
Saint said:
A nice house will depend on its interior design too...
Spacious masterbedroom, living hall, has dry and wet kitchen, family hall upstair, balcony, small garden for relaxing, nice color of painting, arrangement of furniture...etc., all count!

You forgot about couple of slaves to cater to your every need.
 
  • #82
saint, if you cannot find happiness in your current station in life, being rich will not make it any better. People who are miserable in life, generally are miserable no matter how much their life changes.
 
  • #83
Saint said:
These are hell, against human basic right.

Then be glad with what you have.
 
  • #84
Saint said:
These are hell, against human basic right.

Maybe you should go live in one of them for a while so you'll shut up and stop whining about not having a nice enough house. because real people live in these real houses, and they don't complain like you do. So why is that saint? Why are you whining when you have a nice big house to live in unlike these people who don't have any choice but to live in these houses?

I truly pity you saint.. use that $200K to go buy a clue
 
  • #85
Its kind of fascinating to see that people who live in those houses are generally happy. This one time a girl had a enough money to by a nice shirt (by her standards), and for that reason alone she said that she was the luckiest girl alive. It probably costed her ~$1-2.

You think she would love a big giant house with brand new clothes?

I say she wouldn't, and I know she wouldn't. Can anyone think why she wouldn't?
 
  • #86
I've never understood why people will buy expensive homes when they end up looking just like the one down the block. The only reason I can see for having such a huge house is that you can't stand your spouse and children, so want enough room so nobody in the family never needs to interact or even see each other. I have visited and looked through those large homes, and while they are pretty showcases if you have a lot of big parties, they don't feel like a home to me, they feel cold. I prefer a smaller home that feels cozy, the sort where all the guests wind up sitting around the kitchen table, not in some overly ornate living room that the family never goes in except when you have company. I don't like being a guest in those homes either. I'm too uncomfortable worrying I might spill something. And you don't really feel invited INTO someone's home if you are restricted to one sitting room near the front door rather than being invited into the living space, such as the kitchen or family room. For that reason, I avoided houses with formal living rooms. I have a living room, but it's for living in, not wrapping in plastic until company comes. My family room is really just an extension of my kitchen and is the only room where I watch TV. I do wish I had a larger kitchen because I love to bake and have people over for meals, so more room to prepare more food would be wonderful, but I don't even understand why someone would want or need more than one kitchen. Well, with the exception of those who have a second, smaller, kitchen in their basement so that you can use the oven in summer without heating up the living areas, or when you have the large family feasts that require two ovens to prepare all the food.

If the only thing in life that makes you happy is striving for material wealth, then you'll never be happy. Once you have one of those larger houses, instead of being happy, you'll be wanting something even bigger. If you aren't happy where you are, instead of spending money on a bigger house, spend it on a good psychologist to find out why material wealth is so much more important to you than health, family, and friends.
 
  • #87
Saint said:
I checked in the web and found that the houses in UK are very lousily designed from outside. And most of them are only having 2 rooms 1 bath, but costly up to 100,000 pounds.
You right Saint,in anglosax countries quality of newly build houses is v.shabby.
In Canada they build houses from materials resembling cardboard,some newly build houses need to be fix before moving in.
And houses here are ****ing sooo ugly! :eek:
 
  • #88
tumor said:
In Canada they build houses from materials resembling cardboard,some newly build houses need to be fix before moving in.
And houses here are ****ing sooo ugly! :eek:

I don't know tumor, I rather like many of the newer houses in Canada (above a certian price of course.)
I looked these up on a local real estate site. Here are a couple of typical houses in my neighbourhood. They're okay looking I'd say. Nowehere near '****ing sooo ugly!' as you suggested :-p Maybe a little bland but nice nonetheless.

http://photos.celerity.ca:7778/photosrv/LDON/l/298949b.jpg
http://photos.celerity.ca:7778/photosrv/LDON/l/284598b.jpg
 
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  • #89
Check,

Here around Orillia/Barrie most homes like that are put together with particle board as the floor :biggrin:
 
  • #90
singleton said:
Check,

Here around Orillia/Barrie most homes like that are put together with particle board as the floor :biggrin:


Oh don't get me wrong, the building material is lightweight. It doesn't matter to me though. I don't need a house to to have foot wide concrete walls and last 1000 years. :smile:
Besides, they're not ugly.
 
  • #91
I don't know tumor, I rather like many of the newer houses in Canada (above a certian price of course.)
I looked these up on a local real estate site. Here are a couple of typical houses in my neighbourhood. They're okay looking I'd say. Nowehere near '****ing sooo ugly!' as you suggested Maybe a little bland but nice nonetheless.

The Asians own some very, very nice houses in the lower-mainland B.C. They are very attractive, large houses.

Usually 3 floors, with numerous steps to the main (middle floor), usually with a pink or purple color. They seem to be less common in the US.



I wouldn't mind having one of those.
 
  • #92
I agree on their appearance. I'm not out to build a bomb shelter but a well-built home is always desirable :)

The only thing I hate about homes nowadays is the lot size. Look at the second image you posted. Those homes are way too close together heh.

It used to be that you could say I'm used to the luxury of a smaller city but even here they are doing that same thing just to get away with lower taxes and to put twice as many homes in the same amount of area.
 
  • #93
In the DC suburbs nowadays the house takes up far more of the lot than the grounds.
 
  • #94
singleton said:
It used to be that you could say I'm used to the luxury of a smaller city but even here they are doing that same thing just to get away with lower taxes and to put twice as many homes in the same amount of area.


Yeah that's for sure. I think one of the only places in the city or suburbs where u can find a rather big lot nowadays is for houses on cul-de-sacs.
 
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