Is it possible to learn German in a small amount of time?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of learning German to a B2 level within a six-month intensive course in Germany, particularly in the context of applying to German universities for physics studies. Participants explore various factors influencing language acquisition, including immersion, prior language experience, and study methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn German to apply for a German university, questioning the effectiveness of an intensive course compared to self-study.
  • Another participant cites Wikipedia, suggesting that 1200-1500 hours are needed to reach B2, noting that 1000 hours from the proposed course may be insufficient.
  • Some participants argue that immersion in a German-speaking environment could significantly enhance language learning compared to classroom study alone.
  • A participant shares personal experience, stating that it is possible to learn enough German in six months with hard work, emphasizing the importance of additional resources like books and practice exams.
  • Concerns are raised about the variability in learning outcomes based on individual capabilities and the teaching methods used in the course.
  • One participant mentions that most German universities do not have stringent requirements for physics applicants, sharing their own application experience.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "a small amount of time" and suggests that the effectiveness of learning depends on how the language is taught.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of achieving B2 proficiency in six months, with some believing it is possible through immersion and hard work, while others caution about the challenges involved. There is no consensus on the exact amount of time required or the best methods for learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of immersion and additional study methods, but there are unresolved questions regarding individual learning capacities and the effectiveness of different teaching approaches.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering studying in Germany, particularly those interested in language acquisition and higher education in STEM fields.

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So I am thinking about going to Germany, they offer an intensive course for 6 months in there to learn German, it's supposed to get you to level B2, I really want to get to this level to be able to apply for a German university ( that's my only choice cause they are free ) and study physics, given that I will study alone when I am not studying in class and I will work really hard, is it realistically possible? and will there be a difference than to stay here and study alone from the internet? and is it hard to get accepted in a university there ( a good one, or at least not a bad one ) or this studientkolleg thing? any information about education in there in general would be helpful ( for extra information, I am from Algeria ).
 
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Wikipedia says 1200-1500 hours or so is needed to get to B2. Eight hours a day, five days a week for 6 months is 1000 hours.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Wikipedia says 1200-1500 hours or so is needed to get to B2. Eight hours a day, five days a week for 6 months is 1000 hours.

Of course, there's a difference between 8 hours a day in class and 24 hours a day immersion in another country. It just depends on how much the OP is forced to use the language. It also might depend on the OP's experience with learning other languages. Unless I'm misunderstanding the original post--I believe the OP is talking about taking this course in Germany, no?
 
axmls said:
I believe the OP is talking about taking this course in Germany, no?

Yes, I will first study in here for a month ( intensive course by some good professors ) and then go to Germany for 6 month. Also, I know English, French, and Arabic, Don't know if that would help though, do you think I can do it?
 
We cannot truly know if you will succeed. You have to realize the size of the task and how well you deal with tasks like this. You've already gotten one maybe and another cautionary maybe not. There aren't too many other answers. Except the one I just gave.
 
I think it is possible if you get really immersed in the german language. So engage in a lot of conversations with germans, read a lot of german books (children books are a very good start), watch german movies, go to german forums, etc.

If you only depend on the course and nothing else, then it's doubtful you'll make it.
 
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It's definitely possible to learn the needed amount of german to enter university in 6 months but you will have to study hard. Speaking from my experience, I got to A2 level in my home country and then spent 5 months learning german in Berlin and finally passed the DAF and DSH exams (you have to pass one of these exams in order to apply for a university in germany) after 1 month of preparation. The best advice I can give to you is to borrow every single book that trains you to the DSH or TestDaf exam from the Library and do them all ( you can start from B1 training for these exams ). I also spoke arabic, french and english before learning german. Knowing these languages will help you with pronounciation, there are also some words that were "taken" from french or english and used in german.

Most universities in germany don't require anything special in order to apply for a physics degree. I'm studying physics (bachelor degree) at the Technical University of Munich, I only sent my baccalaureate exam certificate, a copy from my DSH certificate and some other papers ( copy of passport, ect ...). Its a "Zulassungsfrei" course, anyone that applies to it should normally be accepted.

For the studienkolleg :
It is "only" intended for students whose high school graduation degree is not recognized as equivalent to the graduation degree in germany.
 
How much is "a small amount of time"?
How well and how much you could learn depends on how "German" is taught. Maybe 5 months for being able to think in German and have some good basic conversations, if the course or courses are taught as both a language and as a subject; but maybe much longer otherwise.
 

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