Is it worth trying to cure cancer?

  • Context: Medical 
  • Thread starter Thread starter epsilonjon
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Cancer
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the implications of curing cancer and other diseases in the context of global population growth and sustainability. Participants explore the ethical considerations of prolonging life and increasing birth rates, questioning whether these efforts are sustainable in the long run.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that efforts to cure diseases like cancer may ultimately be futile if population growth continues unchecked, suggesting that disease and famine could replace one form of mortality with another.
  • Another participant counters that overpopulation is not a concern in developed nations, where population growth is stagnant or negative, and emphasizes that developing nations face different priorities beyond cancer treatment.
  • A third participant claims that more people benefit economically from cancer than die from it, implying a complex relationship between disease and societal structure.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the overpopulation argument, suggesting that empowering women through education reduces birth rates and that technological advancements can support larger populations sustainably.
  • Another participant asserts that it is worthwhile to pursue cures and preventive measures for diseases, while also noting that family planning programs exist in many developing countries to manage birth rates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of population growth and the ethics of prioritizing disease treatment. There is no consensus on whether curing cancer is justified in the context of potential overpopulation and resource limitations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying assumptions about population dynamics, the role of technology in sustainability, and the ethical considerations surrounding healthcare and disease prevention. Some claims depend on specific definitions of overpopulation and the effectiveness of family planning initiatives.

epsilonjon
Messages
57
Reaction score
0
I have confined the title to cancer, but really I am thinking about anything which decreases life-span or supresses birth-rates.

We have gone from a global population size of under 2 billion in 1900, to close to 7 billion now. It seems to be universally accepted that it's correct to try to help people to live as long as possible and have as many children as they want, but how much longer can we stick by this?

Unless we do something ourselves to curb population growth, it seems inevitable that disease and famine will do it for us. In the long run, we will only be replacing one killer with another, and using a huge amount of effort/resources in the process.

What are people's thoughts on this?
 
Biology news on Phys.org
You are assuming that overpopulation will become a problem. But that is not necessarily true: for developed nations, it is already near zero (IIRC, in Europe it is actually negative and most of the population growth in the US is due to immigration), so for developed nations, there is no "other killer" in your equation. For developing nations, their worries are much bigger than cancer and they can't afford cancer treatment anyway.
 
more people live off cancer than die from it
 
epsilonjon said:
I have confined the title to cancer, but really I am thinking about anything which decreases life-span or supresses birth-rates.

We have gone from a global population size of under 2 billion in 1900, to close to 7 billion now. It seems to be universally accepted that it's correct to try to help people to live as long as possible and have as many children as they want, but how much longer can we stick by this?

Unless we do something ourselves to curb population growth, it seems inevitable that disease and famine will do it for us. In the long run, we will only be replacing one killer with another, and using a huge amount of effort/resources in the process.

What are people's thoughts on this?

Ridiculous. If you truly believe that go live in the woods with no technology what so ever, see how long it takes before you try to innovate.

The funny thing about population growth is that it turns out that when you give women rights and education they don't want to spend every year of their life spitting out children until they die! That in conjunction with the lack of need to have large numbers of offspring either to provide labour or just to ensure some survive (parents giving birth in Europe can reasonably expect their child to live to adulthood, parents giving birth in 3rd world countries can reasonably expect some, if not most children to die) has led to a massive curbing of population growth in EU countries with many actually shrinking in population.

The overpopulation argument assumes that we do or will lack the technology to sustain so many people, so what's more ethical? Telling a cancer patient "you are going to die because the Overpopulation Act 2011 bans chemotherapy" or investing in farmscrapers, carbon-neutral energy and all other technologies needed to build sustainable cities?
 
To answer your original question; yes it is definitely worth trying to cure and prevent disease.

epsilonjon said:
We have gone from a global population size of under 2 billion in 1900, to close to 7 billion now. It seems to be universally accepted that it's correct to try to help people to live as long as possible and have as many children as they want, but how much longer can we stick by this?


Correction; people are not being helped to have as many children as they want. Family planning Programmes are organised in most developing countries by their respective governments.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K