Is Light considered Matter? Questions on energy and states of matter.

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The discussion centers on whether light, specifically photons, is classified as matter. Participants conclude that while some modern physics definitions may include photons in the broader concept of matter, traditional definitions emphasize characteristics such as mass and volume, which light lacks. The consensus is that matter is better defined as particles with rest mass, such as protons and neutrons, rather than light, which does not fit into conventional states like gas, liquid, or solid.

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So my initial question was whether or not light was considered matter. While googling this question, I came across this answer:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080717210504AAngJQO

In the top answer given, it is inferred that photons (light) are included in the definition of matter by the modern physics definition.

So if light is matter, in what state is it? I'm very new to physics, and from my understanding matter is characterized by certain qualities, and can be put in a category such as a gas, liquid, etc...

Thanks in advance for any answers.
 
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There is no specific physics definition of matter. Its an ill defined term that is not technical. Check out the Wikipedia on it.

I would not consider light matter. The first line in the wiki says that mass and volume are characteristics of matter. Light has neither.

In physics we prefer the term 'mass', its is specifically defined.
 
So to consider something as a gas, liquid, or any other phase of matter, would said thing need to have mass?
 
I think so. And it would have to be macroscopic too. I would not consider a proton to be matter. Even a proton and an electron (H atom) is pushing it. A single proton or H atom cannot be in a gas, liquid or solid state. You need a collection of them to start distinguishing between phases. And once you get a collection of them you can start to talk of their volume as well.
 
Personally I view matter as any particle with rest mass. Some see it as just "normal everyday" particles such as protons, neutrons, and electrons. Still others see it only as particles bound inside atoms. This is a perfect example of an ill defined term. Luckily we have definitions for things such as hadrons, bosons, fermions, etc that are much more specific.
 
Thank you for your help! This has clarified things a lot! :)
 

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