Is Mars Going to be Highly Visible to Earth in the Near Future?

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The discussion centers around the visibility of Mars from Earth, particularly in the near future, and the conditions affecting its brightness and position in the sky. Participants explore various aspects of Mars' visibility, including past events, current observations, and future predictions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the details of Mars' visibility, including dates and positions in the sky.
  • Another participant refutes a rumor that Mars will appear as large as the full Moon, stating that it was closest to Earth in 2003 and is currently not bright.
  • It is noted that Mars has a cycle of brightness, with the next peak not occurring for another year and a half.
  • A participant shares a link to a resource for tracking planetary positions and mentions Mars' next opposition in December 2007.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology used in media, referring to planets as "morning stars" and "evening stars."
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the calculations for Mars' next closest encounter with Earth in 2287 and requests formulas or equations.
  • Another participant suggests that learning the necessary math is essential for understanding the calculations and recommends using a simulation software to visualize planetary movements.
  • A later reply points out that a previous post was nearly three years old, leading to a humorous exchange about time and responses.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the visibility of Mars, with some asserting it will not be particularly bright in the near future while others discuss future events and calculations. There is also a mix of agreement and playful disagreement regarding the terminology used for planets.

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Participants reference various astronomical events and resources, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the accuracy of predictions and calculations, as well as the assumptions underlying the visibility of Mars.

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Astronomy enthusiasts, individuals interested in planetary visibility, and those curious about celestial events may find this discussion relevant.

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I just heard recently that in the near future Mars is going to be highly visible to Earth. What is the details of this? Why is this so and what dates, time and position in the sky can I view this?
thanks RAD
 
Astronomy news on Phys.org
http://stardate.org/nightsky/mars_spectacular.html
Mars Spectacular?

A story floating around the Internet this summer says that Mars will pass unusually close to Earth in late August, and will appear as large as the full Moon.
Sorry, but it's not true.

Mars actually made its closest pass to Earth in many centuries in August of 2003. It was quite bright then, but it still looked only like a bright star, and was nowhere near the size of the full Moon.

2006 is a poor year for viewing Mars. The planet put in a good showing in late 2005, but has been growing fainter throughout this year. In August, it is barely visible very low in the west for a few minutes in early evening, beginning perhaps 30 to 40 minutes after sunset. It looks like a faint star. It drops from sight by about an hour after sunset.

In 2006,
. . . when it will disappear in the Sun's glare. Mars will reemerge in the morning sky in late December. In March [2007], it will pass quite close to Aldebaran, the star that marks the “eye” of Taurus, the bull. Mars and Aldebaran will look like twins, with near-identical color and brightness.


http://stardate.org/radio/program.php?f=detail&id=2006-08-20
More Moon and Planets
Three planets that are headed in different directions congregate low in the east as twilight paints the dawn sky the next few days. And tomorrow, a thin crescent Moon joins them. The Moon will help you pick them out, but you'll probably want binoculars to see two of the planets.

The brightest of the three planets -- the only one that's easily visible to the unaided eye -- is Venus, the "morning star." It's just below the Moon at first light.

Venus has reined in the early morning sky almost all year, but it won't be there much longer. It's on the far side of the Sun from Earth, and will cross behind the Sun in a couple of months. Over the coming weeks, Venus will move closer and closer to the Sun, and will disappear in the Sun's glare within just a couple of weeks. It'll REappear in December -- in the evening sky.

The other planets are to the lower left of Venus -- so low in the sky that you'll want binoculars to pick them out.

The one that's highest in the sky is Saturn, while the other is Mercury. Mercury's a little brighter.

Like Venus, Mercury is dropping toward the Sun, and will soon completely disappear from view.

Saturn, on the other hand, is climbing away from the Sun. Within a couple of weeks, it'll be clearly visible in the east at first light. You won't need binoculars to find it. It'll climb higher across the sky later in the year, providing a bright highlight for the long, cold nights of winter.

Stardate is sponsored by the McDonald Observatory.
 
So the short answer is that Mars won't be near its brightest for another year and a half, having about a 2.5 year cycle of brightness and having been at its brightest last fall.

At its brightest, Mars is brighter than any star, but for the next year it won't be any brighter than a medium-bright star.
 
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Astronuc said:


Thank you for your very informed reply. You know a lot about the current night time sky and I thank you for taking the time to reply so informatively.
I heard the rumor about Mars from word of mouth but I didn't hear that it would be as big as the full moon. Had I heard that I would have dismissed it as bunk.
I did get to view Mars in 2003 and I remember it was the closest it would be in many years. Today I found out on the local news that three morning stars would be aligned by the crescent moon. I am going to copy and paste your reply and send it to the local TV station here in Chicago that sometimes annouces atronomy events during the weather broadcast
Once again thanks for your detailed reply
RAD
 
For Mars, or any other planet look at:
http://www.heavens-above.com/planetsummary.asp?Session=kebgccdopcnooegbdkdcjjne

Mars' next opposition is December 24, 2007. From Earth on out, all the planets are brightest, and nearest, at opposition.
 
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Today I found out on the local news that three morning stars would be aligned by the crescent moon.
Three morning planets...
 

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russ_watters said:
Three morning planets...
Cool screenshot..:approve:
 
russ_watters said:
Three morning planets...

In the newspapers planets are often referred to as "morning stats" and "evening stars" though you are right they are indeed planets
RAD
 
But how accurate is the calcultaions that the next closest encounter of Mars and Earth would be on year 2287?...can you show me the actual calcultaion? formulas? equations?...just curious...thanks a lot friends...

DANDYBOY
 
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um...go to school, you know how long it takes to learn the math involved ??

just get with your Trig and calculus and such. AND if you don't have time for THAT !


download and run celestia for FREE ! and you can speed up slow down, reverse, pause, orbital patterns all you want and see for yourself.
 
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Did you notice that the post Dejaeviz was responding to was almost three years old?
 
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Erm no ...:blushing:
 
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I guess your not familiar with all time exists at the same time ? inter-dimensionally speaking, i just responded before i responded before he responded.
 

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