Is Michael Moore's The Awful Truth the Most Entertaining Political Commentary?

[russ_watters]

Name calling doesn't actually make your position stronger.

It still seems ro me that Mr. Moore states some facts and then wraps them in opinion. very biased opinion but just opinion none the less. The process makes money for him.

Then a site treats these opinions as if they were some kind of fact that Moore is pushing, and proceed to try and debunk an opinion.
I seems Mr Moore is quite good at stating facts, but not liked by a few for his opinions.


Is that simple enough?

Simple, but just like Moore it is intentionally misleading.

For one, when you 'wrap your facts in very biased opinion' as you put it well enough, you intentionally obscure the facts. That is most certainly not consistent with someone who is "quite good at stating facts".

In addition, there is also only one real reason to use such tactics: your opinions don't stand up under scrutiny so you have to intentionally mislead to convince people your opinions are viable. People who cut through the intentionally deceptive wrapper see the opinions for what they are: blind religous-style beliefs that are unconnected with reality and unworthy of attention. Ironically enough, that makes Moore's target audience like-minded people who don't really need to be propagandized to agree with him! People who see through the deception are those who have a mindset that leads them to challenge it and they don't go to his movies anyway.

 

[russ_watters]

Oh, cool. I was looking for exit polls on Michael Moore movies to see who watches them and I found this: http://allforums.net/archive/t-8278.html

Seems Moore's next movie is going to argue the common conspiracy theory that the 2004 election was rigged, based on exit poll data. Funny stuff.

 

[LightbulbSun]

Oh, cool. I was looking for exit polls on Michael Moore movies to see who watches them and I found this: http://allforums.net/archive/t-8278.html

Seems Moore's next movie is going to argue the common conspiracy theory that the 2004 election was rigged, based on exit poll data. Funny stuff.

Man, oh man, what is Moore going to do starting January 2009?

 

[tribdog]

Man, oh man, what is Moore going to do starting January 2009?

Break his new year resolution to lose weight.

 

[wildman]

To answer your original question: No.

 

[vanesch]

(I think he's a teacher, i.e. summer breaks!)

Nope, that's the regular thing in France. There used to be legal 26 days of holiday, and then the famous "35 hour week" is in most companies converted in 23 extra days of holiday (while keeping something like a 9-5 day). Now because of years on the job, I got a few more days, then there's a rule that says that if you don't take all your holidays together, you get 2 more days, and then because I'm not a French national, I get 2 more days to go and see my family.

From a macro-economic viewpoint, it's a disaster. But from a personal viewpoint, it's nice :-)

 

[mheslep]

.. our whole lives is just a big vacation. ...

Does not bode well for the future of western civilization. I recall hearing Gov. Schwarzenegger say one reason he immigrated to the US from Austria was he had enough of listening to Austrian 18 year olds talk about their pension plans.

 

[mheslep]

...Also, where do people get this long wait time thing in Canada? ...

http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2005/2005scc35/2005scc35.html"

...The evidence in this case shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread, and that, in some serious cases, patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care. The evidence also demonstrates that the prohibition against private health insurance and its consequence of denying people vital health care result in physical and psychological suffering that meets a threshold test of seriousness..

 

[JasonRox]

Does not bode well for the future of western civilization. I recall hearing Gov. Schwarzenegger say one reason he immigrated to the US from Austria was he had enough of listening to Austrian 18 year olds talk about their pension plans.

You're assuming I'm taking advantage or abusing the system and doing nothing. I'm a hard worker. I'm saying it's like vacation because it's a beautiful life if arranged well.

Friends who followed what I do agreed. Some stop driving and started riding bikes and walking and taking the bus around because the cost was so much cheaper. Some things free up income which allow you to do the things you want. None of my friends complain about taxes and are willing to pay more (not all are in school).

The bottom line is that people get benefits from paying high taxes. The only problem now is that everyone complains about taxes in such a way that they hope to keep the benefits while paying no taxes. People like that drive me nuts.

 

[badeany]

if i have two different I beams (connected by bolts through the flange) and a plate of top of that, how would i find the neutral axis? i have the gross cross sectional area, depth and second moment of area of each.

 

[russ_watters]

Man, oh man, what is Moore going to do starting January 2009?

McCain's a republican too, so he'll have plenty to work with. Probably a start with a conspiracy theory about McCain's captivity.

 

[russ_watters]

if i have two different I beams (connected by bolts through the flange) and a plate of top of that, how would i find the neutral axis? i have the gross cross sectional area, depth and second moment of area of each.

I'd start by connecting the beams to the proper forum for the question...

 

[B. Elliott]

if i have two different I beams (connected by bolts through the flange) and a plate of top of that, how would i find the neutral axis? i have the gross cross sectional area, depth and second moment of area of each.

First you must estimate the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.

 

[LightbulbSun]

McCain's a republican too, so he'll have plenty to work with. Probably a start with a conspiracy theory about McCain's captivity.

I wonder what kind of title he'll stamp on this one?