Is Momentum Conserved in Both Collision Scenarios?

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in two collision scenarios involving identical carts rolling down a hill. The first scenario involves one cart starting from rest and colliding with another at rest, while the second scenario has both carts starting from rest and colliding after rolling down the hill.

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  • Participants explore the implications of momentum conservation in both scenarios, questioning whether the momentum is zero or non-zero in each case. There is discussion about the correctness of specific statements regarding the momentum of the system after the collisions.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify the definitions and implications of momentum in the context of the problem. There is a mix of agreement and confusion regarding the statements about momentum being zero or non-zero in the different cases, indicating an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions of momentum and its conservation, with some expressing uncertainty about the conditions under which momentum can be considered zero or non-zero. The original poster's reasoning is being scrutinized for clarity and accuracy.

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Two identical carts A and B roll down a hill and collide as shown in the figure below.

i) A starts from rest. It rolls down and collides head-on with B which is initially at rest on the ground. The two carts stick together.

ii) A and B are at rest on opposite sides of the hill. They roll down, collide head-on and stick together.[/B]

Which statement is true about the two-cart system just after the carts collide in the two cases?

Select all that are True.
The momentum of the system is zero in case (ii).
The momentum of the system is the same in both cases (but no zero).
The momentum of the system is greater in case (ii) than in case (i).
The momentum of the system is greater in case (i) than in case (ii).

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Conservation of Momentum[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe the answer is #1 and #4 are true. The momentum of the system is greater in case (i) than in case (ii) because case (i) is still moving unlike case (ii).

I believe the momentum is zero in case (ii) because it started from rest ad ended at rest[/B]
 

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It is correct in principle, but not a "case" is moving, and not the "momentum" is in rest. The momentum can have some value, zero or not zero.
 
ehild said:
It is correct in principle, but not a "case" is moving, and not the "momentum" is in rest. The momentum can have some value, zero or not zero.
So you're saying we don't know if the momentum is zero or nonzero so I'm wrong?
 
You know if the final momentum of the whole system is zero or not zero. The answer "#1 and #4 are true" is correct. What is wrong is "because case (i) is still moving unlike case (ii)". Use proper subject in the sentence.
 
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Case (i) is non zero and Case (ii) is zero ?
 
Westin said:
Case (i) is non zero and Case (ii) is zero ?

What is zero? A case has no numerical value.
 

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