Is Momentum of a person bouncing on a trampoline conserved?

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in the context of a person bouncing on a trampoline. Participants are exploring the implications of Newton's third law and the interactions between the person, the trampoline, and the Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question whether momentum is conserved during the bouncing process and consider the role of external forces, such as the Earth. They discuss the equal and opposite forces between the person and the trampoline and raise questions about the overall system's momentum and energy conservation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the conservation of momentum and energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between momentum conservation and energy conservation, while multiple interpretations of the scenario are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of friction and energy losses in the system, as well as the implications of external forces on momentum conservation. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the system involving the trampoline and the Earth.

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Homework Statement



Is Momentum of a person bouncing on a trampoline conserved?

Homework Equations



p=mv
conservation of momentum equation


The Attempt at a Solution



Please explain in detail (if possible). Thanks!
 
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What do you think? :-p (Hint: Before answering that, think: Newton's third law of motion. Does the momentum of the Earth fit into the answer?)
 


So yes, the trampoline and the person apply equal and opposite forces on each other, leading to conserved momentum? If momentum is conserved, ultimately, how come the person stops bouncing?
 


Physics0009 said:
So yes, the trampoline and the person apply equal and opposite forces on each other, leading to conserved momentum?

Essentially, yes (but you haven't included one other part of the whole system). What is the trampoline itself attached to?

When a person pushes against the trampoline (or should I say, when trampoline/Earth pushes against the person), we know what happens to the person: the person bounces up. And at the same time, what happens to the trampoline/Earth? Does it also bounce? And if so, in what direction?

If momentum is conserved, ultimately, how come the person stops bouncing?

Conservation of momentum is different than conservation of kinetic/potential energy. There are frictional energy losses involved, and conservation of kinetic/potoential energy does not necessarily apply in that case. (Overall conservation of energy applies, but kinetic and/or potential energy might be converted to some other types of energy such as heat.)

Back to conservation of momentum. Allow me to say that in a general sense: For a closed system, where no external forces or torques are present (internal forces and torques are allowed), momentum is always conserved. This is true whether friction is involved or not. I leave it to you to show how this applies to the trampoline situation.
 

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