Is Mrs. Clinton Running for 2004 President?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the speculation regarding whether Mrs. Clinton is running for the 2004 presidential election, including various opinions on political honesty, the implications of her potential candidacy, and the broader context of American politics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the reliability of claims regarding Mrs. Clinton's candidacy, citing hearsay and the lack of credible sources.
  • Others argue about the definitions of political statements, suggesting that the interpretation of what constitutes a lie can vary based on political affiliation.
  • A participant questions the timing of political registration, suggesting that it may be too early for candidates to officially register for the 2004 election.
  • There are claims that regardless of political affiliation, politicians are often perceived as dishonest, with some participants pointing out hypocrisy in how lies are treated based on party lines.
  • Speculation arises about future elections, with some participants suggesting that if Mrs. Clinton does not run in 2004, she may have a chance in 2008 or later.
  • Discussion includes a critique of the political landscape, with references to various politicians and their perceived honesty or dishonesty.
  • Some participants engage in a meta-discussion about the nature of truth and lies in politics, with differing views on the implications of these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Mrs. Clinton will run for president or the implications of her potential candidacy. Multiple competing views on political honesty and the nature of truth are present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about political statements and the definitions of terms used in the debate. The conversation reflects a range of opinions without resolving the underlying uncertainties.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals following American political dynamics, particularly those interested in the implications of political statements and the candidacy of prominent figures like Mrs. Clinton.

  • #31
What happened to my post? Zero, did you delete it?!
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by Jonathan
What happened to my post? Zero, did you delete it?!
Yep...next time, you can leave off the name calling.
 
  • #33
**Edited for being off-topic**
 
  • #34
I can do this all day and night, Jonathan...and it pads my post count too!
 
  • #35
What does the post count have to do with anything? Also, will others please note for the record the vindictive tone on the previous post? And the bloated egotism that is characteristic of malignant narcissicism? I can change the topic midthread if I want, it is my thread.
 
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  • #36
Speaking of which, to get completely back on topic(And I apologise for the hijack...mea culpa), I find that the media fixation on Hillary is due to her 'brand-name' status, and it is a detriment to the overall political coverage to waste limited air and print time on non-news.
 
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  • #37
Who are you apologizing to? This is my thread and I took it off topic, why would you say "mea culpa" since I was the one who caused this digression and would have liked to hear some input on that (Ex.: LOL!). Surely you must understand that my comments have to have been tongue-in-cheek, considering that I've agknowledged many times that I really don't know you and considering the many humorous (or I though so) remarks I've made previously (Ex.:Kerry's face is sliding of his head, that one just cracks me up!). Obviously they weren't nice, but for all you know I'm the insane one, in which case it would be prudent to ignore me all together rather than deleting everything.
 
  • #38
Originally posted by Jonathan
Who are you apologizing to? This is my thread and I took it off topic, why would you say "mea culpa" since I was the one who caused this digression and would have liked to hear some input on that (Ex.: LOL!). Surely you must understand that my comments have to have been tongue-in-cheek, considering that I've agknowledged many times that I really don't know you and considering the many humorous (or I though so) remarks I've made previously (Ex.:Kerry's face is sliding of his head, that one just cracks me up!). Obviously they weren't nice, but for all you know I'm the insane one, in which case it would be prudent to ignore me all together rather than deleting everything.
Insanity is no excuse...can we PLEASE get back on the topic here?!?
 
  • #39
I thought we had beat it to death already, since for a while there was no mention of Mrs. Clinton at all. I started this thread as kind of like those threads Ivan Seeking posts, where there are few replies and it kinda just is. Then again Ivan has links to actual sources of information, whereas all I had was a 'I heard it from some guy...' type of source.
PS:I don't think I'm insane, I was just making a valid point that you guys really can't tell what I'm thinking for sure.
 
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