Is My AP Calculus Solution Correct?

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The discussion revolves around the correctness of solutions to AP Calculus problems involving a cubic function, specifically focusing on finding zeros, tangent lines, and applying the Mean Value Theorem. Participants analyze the work presented and provide feedback on various aspects of the calculations.

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  • One participant presents their work on finding the zeros of the function f(x) = x³ - 7x + 6, claiming the zeros are x = ±1, 6, but another participant challenges this by verifying that x = 1 is indeed a root while x = -1 and x = 6 do not satisfy the equation.
  • There is a discussion about the method of synthetic division to find the correct roots, with one participant stating they found the roots to be x = 1, 2, -3.
  • Participants debate the calculation of the slope of the tangent line at x = -1, with one participant correcting the derivative evaluation and the function value at that point, indicating a misunderstanding in the original claim.
  • In the Mean Value Theorem application, one participant initially miscalculates the function values at the endpoints of the interval [1,3], leading to an incorrect conclusion about the value of c. They later correct their arithmetic and provide a new value for c as √(13/3).
  • There is acknowledgment of careless mistakes and a request for further verification of the revised solutions.

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Participants express disagreement on the correctness of the initial solutions, particularly regarding the zeros of the function and the calculations for the tangent line and Mean Value Theorem. The discussion remains unresolved as multiple viewpoints and corrections are presented without a clear consensus on the final answers.

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Limitations include potential errors in arithmetic and misunderstandings in derivative evaluations. The discussion reflects ongoing refinement of calculations and interpretations of the problems posed.

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Hey guys. These are the first AP Problems I'm doing. Here is all my work.

Let f be the function given by f(x) = x^{3}-7x+6.

a. Find the zeros of f.
b. Write an equation of the line tangent to the graph of f at x = -1
c. Find the number c that satisfies the Mean Value Theorem for f on the closed interval [1,3]

So what I did is:
a. 0 = x^{3} - 7x + 6
-6 = x(x^{2}-7)
Final Answer: x = +/-1, 6

b. f'(x) = 3x^{2} - 7
m = f'(-1) = 3(-1)^{3} - 7 = -4
f'(-1) = (-1)^{3} - 7(-1) + 6 = 12
Final Answer: y - 12 = -4(x+1)

c. f(b) = f(3) = 3^{3} - 7(3) + 6 = -6
f(a) = f(1) = 1^{3} - 7(1) + 6 = 0
f'(c) = (f(b)-f(a)) / (b-a) = (-6 - 0) / (3-1) = -3
-3 = 3c^{2} - 7
Final Answer: c = 2\sqrt{3} / 3

Please tell me what is right and wrong? I am fairly confident on a and b, but shaky on c because I haven't studied that yet and don't know if it's right at all.

Thanks in advance!
 
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yokoloko13 said:
Hey guys. These are the first AP Problems I'm doing. Here is all my work.

Let f be the function given by f(x) = x^{3}-7x+6.

a. Find the zeros of f.
b. Write an equation of the line tangent to the graph of f at x = -1
c. Find the number c that satisfies the Mean Value Theorem for f on the closed interval [1,3]

So what I did is:
a. 0 = x^{3} - 7x + 6
-6 = x(x^{2}-7)
Final Answer: x = +/-1, 6
I don't understand where you would get +/- 1, 6 from "-6= x(x^2- 7) or even how that last form helps. Even if you don't know how to solve this equation, you should be able to check: If x= 1, then 1^3- 7(1)+ 6= 0 so that is a solution. If x= -1, (-1)^3- 7(-1)+ 6= -2 not 0. Finally, if x= 6, 6^3- 7(6)+ 6= 216- 42+ 6= 180, nowhere near 0!. Since 1 is a root, you can divide x^3- 7x+ 6 by x-1 and find that x^3- 7x+ 6= (x-1)(x^2+ x- 6). what are the other two roots?

b. f'(x) = 3x^{2} - 7
m = f'(-1) = 3(-1)^{3} - 7 = -4
you mean 3(-1)^2- 7= -4 but yes, that is the correct slope.

f'(-1) = (-1)^{3} - 7(-1) + 6 = 12
Well, you mean f(-1), not f'(-1), but even then, (-1)^3- 7(-1)+ 6= -1-7+ 6= -2 not 12!

Final Answer: y - 12 = -4(x+1)
Try again!

c. f(b) = f(3) = 3^{3} - 7(3) + 6 = -6
?? 3^3 -7(3)+ 6= 27- 21+ 6= 12!

f(a) = f(1) = 1^{3} - 7(1) + 6 = 0
f'(c) = (f(b)-f(a)) / (b-a) = (-6 - 0) / (3-1) = -3
-3 = 3c^{2} - 7
Final Answer: c = 2\sqrt{3} / 3

Please tell me what is right and wrong? I am fairly confident on a and b, but shaky on c because I haven't studied that yet and don't know if it's right at all.

Thanks in advance!
Your calculus is good but your arithmetic is atrocious! Perhaps you are trying to do it too fast.
 
Lol thanks, I guess. Yes, I was in a rush to leave. Thank you for your help. I will go back and check everything. Hectic day, my friend. Forgive me for the careless mistakes.
 
So I went back and reworked it.
For a) I did the synthetic division and got "x = 1,2, -3" for my final answer.

Well, you mean f(-1), not f'(-1), but even then, (-1)^3- 7(-1)+ 6= -1-(-7)+ 6= -2 not 12!

For b) Don't want to be rude, but my answer was correct. Your mistake was in the underlined part (-1)^3 -7(-1)+ 6= -1-(-7)+ 6= 12. Subtracting a negative (when you just subtracted the positive) or how ever way you would like to look at it.

c) Yes, my math was horrible there.
f(b) = f(3) = 3^{3} - 7(3) + 6 = 12
f(a) = f(1) = 1^{3} - 7(1) + 6 = 0
f'(c) = (f(b)-f(a)) / (b-a) = (12 - 0) / (3-1) = 6
6 = 3c^{2} - 7
c = \sqrt{13/3}

I'm quite sure it's fixed now! Thanks for all the help!
 
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