Is My Derivative Calculation for a Logarithmic Function Correct?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a logarithmic function, specifically Y = ln[(x+1)^3/((x^2)-1)^(1/2)]. Participants are examining their calculations and comparing results from an online derivative calculator.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss their derivative calculations, with one expressing concern over discrepancies between their answer and that from an online tool. There is also a suggestion to simplify the expression before differentiation.

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Some participants have offered insights into potential errors in calculations and encouraged revisiting the work. One participant has acknowledged a mistake in their approach, leading to a corrected understanding of the problem.

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There is mention of a lack of an answer key, which contributes to the uncertainty in verifying the correctness of the derivative calculations. Participants are also exploring different forms of the logarithmic expression to facilitate differentiation.

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1. Given Y = ln [ (x+1)^3/((x^2)-1)^(1/2), find y'



2. I came out with the following answer to this question:

(3x-4)/((x^2)-1)


How ever, I typed the question into an online derivative calculator (to hopefully check my asnwer as I have no answer key, and want to make sure I'm on the right path), but it came up with a completely different answer:

(2x-3)/((x^2)-1)

Could anyone point me in the right direction...my answer worked out nicely: factored, canceled etc. but I'm worried its not correct.

Thanks for the check!
 
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The latter is correct, unfortunately for you :)
You're not completely off, though, as
[tex]\frac{2x - 3}{x^2 - 1} = \frac{3 x - 4}{x^2 - 1} + \frac{x - 1}{x^2 - 1} = \frac{3 x - 4}{x^2 - 1} - \frac{1}{1 + x}[/tex]
so it looks like you're just missing a term or you've got a sign wrong.

Also unfortunately, it is hard for us to tell you what went wrong without showing us your work. It's basically just calculating: d/du log(u) = 1/u, using the chain rule with u = (x+1)^3/((x^2)-1)^(1/2).
 
Thank you for your help! it allowed me to go back into my work, and figure out where I wen't wrong. Basically all I did, was i forgot to write an X, and instead wrote a 1...so when I was multiplying both sides by a common demonator, my numbers came out funny.

Anyways, I found the error, corrected the following calculations, and VOILA! got it.

Thanks again!
 
xxclaymanxx said:
1. Given Y = ln [ (x+1)^3/((x^2)-1)^(1/2)], find y'

May I point out that Y= 3ln(x+1)-(1/2)ln(x2+ 1). Surely that is simpler to differentiate!



2. I came out with the following answer to this question:

(3x-4)/((x^2)-1)


How ever, I typed the question into an online derivative calculator (to hopefully check my asnwer as I have no answer key, and want to make sure I'm on the right path), but it came up with a completely different answer:

(2x-3)/((x^2)-1)

Could anyone point me in the right direction...my answer worked out nicely: factored, canceled etc. but I'm worried its not correct.

Thanks for the check!
 

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