Is My Quantum Well Probability Calculation Correct?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of finding an electron in a specific region of an infinite quantum well, specifically when the electron is in the n=2 state. Participants are examining the integration of the wave function over the central third of the well's width, L.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the normalization of the wave function and the integration process to find the probability within the specified region. There are questions about the correctness of calculations and the significance of the final answer.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the accuracy of the initial calculations and exploring potential mistakes in the integration steps. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the integral and its limits, with some guidance provided regarding the expected form of the answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific numerical values in the problem statement, which complicates the determination of significant figures for the final answer. There is also mention of the dependency of certain factors on the quantum number n.

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Homework Statement
An electron is in state n=2 in an infinite quantum well with width L. What is the probability to find the electron if you measure within the well's central third? Can someone cofirm whether or not my solution is correct
Relevant Equations
Y=Asin(n*pi*x/L)
Homework Statement:: An electron is in state n=2 in an infinite quantum well with width L. What is the probability to find the electron if you measure within the well's central third? Can someone cofirm whether or not my solution is correct
Homework Equations:: Y=Asin(n*pi*x/L)

I use the wave funtion Asin(n*pi*x/L) for a wave in a well of the interval 0 to L and square the absolute value of it, getting abs(Asin(n*pi*x/k))^2 = abs(A)^2 *sin^2(n*pi*x/L) (since sin^2(x) is greater or equal to 0) (I use n=2 of course)

I then take the abs(Y)^2 function and integrate it from 0 to L, (using that sin^2(x)`= 1/2(1-cos(2x)) and define the expression as equal to 1 in order to be able to normate it. I get that abs(A)^2*L/2=1 => abs(A)^2 = 2/L

I use 2/L in place of the abs(A)^2 in the integral expression and integrate from L/3 to 2L/3 so that it is the third in the middle. I get that it is equal to 0.229959166. Is this the correct way to solve it? Also, if anyone knows their significant figures, I'm also unsure about how many I am supposed to use in my final answer, since the problem only gives us n=2 which is discrete and that we are calculating for 1/3 of L, and doesn't give any regular values

Thanks
 
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Theodore0101 said:
Homework Statement:: An electron is in state n=2 in an infinite quantum well with width L. What is the probability to find the electron if you measure within the well's central third? Can someone cofirm whether or not my solution is correct
Homework Equations:: Y=Asin(n*pi*x/L)

I use the wave funtion Asin(n*pi*x/L) for a wave in a well of the interval 0 to L and square the absolute value of it, getting abs(Asin(n*pi*x/k))^2 = abs(A)^2 *sin^2(n*pi*x/L) (since sin^2(x) is greater or equal to 0) (I use n=2 of course)

I then take the abs(Y)^2 function and integrate it from 0 to L, (using that sin^2(x)`= 1/2(1-cos(2x)) and define the expression as equal to 1 in order to be able to normate it. I get that abs(A)^2*L/2=1 => abs(A)^2 = 2/L

I use 2/L in place of the abs(A)^2 in the integral expression and integrate from L/3 to 2L/3 so that it is the third in the middle. I get that it is equal to 0.229959166. Is this the correct way to solve it? Also, if anyone knows their significant figures, I'm also unsure about how many I am supposed to use in my final answer, since the problem only gives us n=2 which is discrete and that we are calculating for 1/3 of L, and doesn't give any regular values

Thanks
That answer seems not quite right. Can you check it? Personally, I would give a precise answer, in terms of ##\pi##, and give an approximation to at most 3 decimal places.
 
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PeroK said:
That answer seems not quite right. Can you check it? Personally, I would give a precise answer, in terms of ##\pi##, and give an approximation to at most 3 decimal places.

Thanks for your reply. I think I might have done some calculating mistake when I was doing the final step, and that it should instead be 0.33333... or 1/3. Is this the correct answer, or were you referring to something else as being wrong?
 
Theodore0101 said:
Thanks for your reply. I think I might have done some calculating mistake when I was doing the final step, and that it should instead be 0.33333... or 1/3. Is this the correct answer, or were you referring to something else as being wrong?

It's ##\frac 1 3 - \Delta##, where ##\Delta## is some factor that depends on ##n##.

What was the result of your integral?
 
PeroK said:
It's ##\frac 1 3 - \Delta##, where ##\Delta## is some factor that depends on ##n##.

What was the result of your integral?

Using 2/L*int(sin^2(2pi*x/L))dx (from L/3 to 2L/3) I got that it is 1/3 (with 2/L=abs(A)^2 and 2=n). Is it possible for Δ to be 0, or am I still doing something wrong somewhere?
 
Theodore0101 said:
Using 2/L*int(sin^2(2pi*x/L))dx (from L/3 to 2L/3) I got that it is 1/3 (with 2/L=abs(A)^2 and 2=n). Is it possible for Δ to be 0, or am I still doing something wrong somewhere?

##\Delta = 0## for ##n = 3##, but not for ##n =2##.

You can look up the integral of ##\sin^2## to check, but you should get:
$$\int_{L/3}^{2L/3} \frac 2 L \sin^2(\frac{2 \pi x}{L})dx = (\frac 2 L)(\frac{L}{8\pi})\bigg[ \frac{4\pi x}{L} - \sin(\frac{4\pi x}{L}) \bigg ] _{L/3}^{2L/3}$$
 
PeroK said:
##\Delta = 0## for ##n = 3##, but not for ##n =2##.

You can look up the integral of ##\sin^2## to check, but you should get:
$$\int_{L/3}^{2L/3} \frac 2 L \sin^2(\frac{2 \pi x}{L})dx = (\frac 2 L)(\frac{L}{8\pi})\bigg[ \frac{4\pi x}{L} - \sin(\frac{4\pi x}{L}) \bigg ] _{L/3}^{2L/3}$$

Thank you! My mistake seems to have been when doing the integral, and I wrote cos instead of sin in the final expression. But I think I'm getting the correct answer now.
 
Theodore0101 said:
Thank you! My mistake seems to have been when doing the integral, and I wrote cos instead of sin in the final expression. But I think I'm getting the correct answer now.

Which is?
 
PeroK said:
Which is?
About 19.6%
 
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Theodore0101 said:
About 19.6%

That would be ##\frac 1 3 - \frac{\sqrt{3}}{4\pi}##
 

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