Is my Feynman diagram for production of ##W^-## boson correct?

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The discussion revolves around the production of a W^- boson in proton-antiproton scattering, specifically the reaction $$p + \bar{p} \to W^- + X$$, where participants are exploring the possible particle X and the corresponding Feynman diagrams. The subject area includes particle physics and the interactions involving mesons and bosons.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to identify the particle X, with suggestions that it could be a ##\pi^+## or ##\pi^0## based on charge conservation and energetic favorability. Questions are raised regarding the correctness of the proposed Feynman diagrams and whether fewer vertices could represent the interaction.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the reaction, with participants providing guidance on the implications of quark interactions and the likelihood of various outcomes. Suggestions have been made regarding the potential for multiple particles to be produced in the reaction, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of particle interactions, including considerations of charge conservation and the nature of mesons formed from quark-antiquark pairs. The discussion is framed within the context of homework constraints and the need for conceptual clarity in drawing Feynman diagrams.

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Homework Statement
The ##W^−## was discovered in 1983 at CERN using proton-antiproton scattering
$$p + \bar{p} \to W^- + X$$,
where ##X## represents one or more particles. What is the most likely ##X## for this process?
Draw a Feynman diagram for your reaction, and explain why your ##X## is more probable than the various alternatives?
Relevant Equations
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I think ##X## appears to be ##\pi^{+}## because it is light and energetically more favourable. Pion should be positive to ensure charge conservation. I am stuck at drawing a Feynman diagram for $$p+\bar{p} \to W^- + \pi^+$$.

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Is this correct? Is this the leading order diagram or is there a diagram with fewer vertices possible? I tried seeing if a digram with fewer vertices is possible but this is the best I am able to do.
 
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Nirmal Padwal said:
Homework Statement:: The ##W^−## was discovered in 1983 at CERN using proton-antiproton scattering
$$p + \bar{p} \to W^- + X$$,
where ##X## represents one or more particles. What is the most likely ##X## for this process?
Draw a Feynman diagram for your reaction, and explain why your ##X## is more probable than the various alternatives?
Relevant Equations:: (Not applicable)

I think ##X## appears to be ##\pi^{+}## because it is light and energetically more favourable. Pion should be positive to ensure charge conservation. I am stuck at drawing a Feynman diagram for $$p+\bar{p} \to W^- + \pi^+$$.

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Is this correct? Is this the leading order diagram or is there a diagram with fewer vertices possible? I tried seeing if a digram with fewer vertices is possible but this is the best I am able to do.
The extra u and d quarks are going to get you into trouble. They aren't just going to annihilate into gluons, the gluons themselves would decay into something else.

Think about this a bit more directly. What mesons are made up of ##u \overline{u}## and ##d \overline{d}##?

-Dan
 
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##\pi^0## are made up of ##u\bar{u}## and ##d\bar{d}##.

So after reading your post, I came up with this,

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Is this correct?
 
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##\pi^0## are made up of ##u\bar{u}## and ##d\bar{d}##.

So after reading your post, I came up with this,

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Is this correct?
You are almost there. The up and anti-up collision is going to be energetic and you have two of them happening. So perhaps you will get two more particles coming out of this reaction...

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
So perhaps you will get two more particles coming out of this reaction
Photons?

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Does this make sense?
 
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Photons?

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Does this make sense?
Sort of. Remember that, in general, the more vertices we have the less likely it is to happen. And I'm not quite sure what you have going on with the four up quarks and the ##\pi ^0##.

Try it this way. Each up-antiup pair can create two photons, right? So do that directly. Then you are predicting ##\overline{p} + p \to W^- +2 \gamma +2 \gamma + \pi ^+##.

Now, this is correct. But I think, given the likely energies involved, it is more likely to have the following diagram:
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The up-antiup pairs can both form ##\pi ^0##s. So here we would have ##\overline{p} + p \to W^- + \pi ^0 + \pi ^0 + \pi ^+##.

Can you think of any other possibilities based on this idea?

-Dan
 
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