Is my Proof Correct for lim x/(x+1) = 1/2?

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of the function x/(x+1) as x approaches 1, specifically showing that it equals 1/2. The subject area pertains to calculus and the formal definition of limits.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the validity of assuming x>0 in the proof and discuss the implications of this assumption on the limit proof. There are questions about the choice of delta and its relationship to epsilon, with some participants suggesting alternative bounds for |x+1|.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the proof, particularly regarding the treatment of x<0. Some participants express differing opinions on whether the assumption of x>0 is sufficient, while others provide corrections and clarifications on the bounds used in the proof.

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Participants note the importance of ensuring that delta is appropriately chosen to satisfy the conditions of the limit definition, with discussions around the implications of the chosen bounds and the necessity of considering both positive and negative values of x.

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Homework Statement


Prove
lim x/(x+1) = 1/2
x->1

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The Attempt at a Solution


|x/(x+1) - 1/2|=|x-1|/(2|x+1|)
Assume x>0[/color] (can I say this??), then |x-1|/(2|x+1|)<|x-1|/2
Take delta=min{1,epsilon/2}.
Then if 0<|x-1|<delta, then |x/(x+1) - 1/2|<epsilon

In the middle of my proof, I assumed that x>0, is this OK?
Does my choice of delta (delta=min{1,epsilon/2}) work?

Could someone kindly confirm this? (or point out any mistakes)
I haven't done those for awhile, so I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly.
Thanks!
 
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Hi kingwinner! :smile:

(have a delta: δ and an epsilon: ε :wink:)

I don't like your x > 0 … it's messy, and you really ought to do x < 0 also. :redface:

You're trying to get a lower limit on |x+1|, and you've chosen 2 … which doesn't really work for x < 0, does it?

try something less than 2, eg 1.5 :wink:
 
hmm...so my "proof" above is wrong? :(

But I thought the definition of limit says as x gets close to 1 (0<|x-1|<delta), then the function gets arbitrarily close to the limit 1/2. We don't really have to care at all about the case x<0, right? If I take delta=min{1,epsilon/2}, then delta is always less than or equal to 1, so we never have to look at the case x<0, isn't it?

So if I say I assume x>0 in the first place of the proof. Is this ok, can somebody confirm or correct me, please?
 
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tiny-tim!

I totally disagree with you!

Being very close to x=1 implies x>0, so there is no need to consider x<0.

kingwinner:

Under your assumption x>0 (perfectly okay!), you have derived the bound <|x-1|/2

Thus, by chosing delta = 2e, whenever |x-1|<delta, your expression will be less than e.
 
x>0 => 1- delta > 0 => delta <1 so I think here is the requirement in addition to the bound I obtained later on.

So I think if I take delta=min{1, 2e}, then both conditions hold, and if 0<|x-1|<delta, then |x/(x+1) - 1/2|<epsilon ? I don't think it's enough to just take delta=2e...we need delta to be no greater than 1 as well, right?
 
Hi arildno!

Yes, you're right, I was confused about what x was (also I missed the factor of 2 in 1/2|x+1|). :redface:

Thanks for the correction. :smile:
 
I actually originally meant to take delta=min{1, 2e}, but I made a silly computational mistake and got e/2 instead of 2e...

But if I really take delta=min{1, e/2}, it's going to work as well because if a certain delta works in the definition, than any smaller delta (>0) will certainly work, right?
 
kingwinner said:
I actually originally meant to take delta=min{1, 2e}, but I made a silly computational mistake and got e/2 instead of 2e...

But if I really take delta=min{1, e/2}, it's going to work as well because if a certain delta works in the definition, than any smaller delta (>0) will certainly work, right?

Absolutely! :smile:
 

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