Is Newton the founder of quantum gravitation?

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The discussion centers on the misconception that Newton's gravitational formula, $$ F = G \ \dfrac{ m_{_1} m_{_2} }{d^2} $$, can be considered a theory of quantum gravity. Participants unanimously conclude that while energy can be related to frequency through the equation $$ E = h \hspace{0.03 cm} \nu $$, this alone does not suffice to establish a consistent quantum theory. The consensus emphasizes the necessity of peer-reviewed references to substantiate any claims linking Newtonian physics to quantum gravitation.

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Someone I value told me that just by using the formula
$$ E = h \hspace{0.03 cm} \nu $$
any high school level statement becomes a theory of quantum gravity . My opinion is that this is not the case, but I admit that often I am wrong.
Is it okay to assume that the Newtonian formula

$$ F = G \ \dfrac{ m_{_1} m_{_2} }{d^2} $$

is itself a theory of quantum gravity ?
 
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Relating energy to frequency is of course a part of quantum theory, but this alone is not sufficient to have a consistent quantum theory. So the answer is - no.
 
Demystifier said:
Relating energy to frequency is of course a part of quantum theory, but this alone is not sufficient to have a consistent quantum theory. So the answer is - no.
Thank you Demystifier for answering my question.

I asked this because someone I value said that if you use the equation $$ E = h \hspace{0.03 cm} \nu $$ , plus high school physics, and you get to the Newtonian gravitational formula, you have developed a theory of quantum gravitation.

Obviously I have a can't admit that, but the person's insistence made me doubt that I was wrong.
 
I'm sure you have good reasons to value that person, but perhaps good knowledge of physics should not be one of them.
 
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Demystifier said:
I'm sure you have good reasons to value that person, but perhaps good knowledge of physics should not be one of them.
I have many reasons to trust his knowledge and this is the first time I have encountered a shocking surprise. Maybe I expressed poorly in English what I really wanted to ask. Or Google Translator fulfilled the Italian saying: traduttore, traditore.
 
south said:
I asked this because someone I value said that if you use the equation $$ E = h \hspace{0.03 cm} \nu $$ , plus high school physics, and you get to the Newtonian gravitational formula, you have developed a theory of quantum gravitation.
This is not a valid reference. Either there is a textbook or peer-reviewed paper that expounds and defends such a claim, or there isn't.

Unless and until you can produce such a reference (maybe the "someone" you value knows of one? I doubt it, but you can ask), this thread is closed.
 

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