Is Nothing Still Considered Something?

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The forum discussion centers on the philosophical and scientific implications of "nothing" and "something," particularly in the context of the Big Bang theory as presented by Stephen Hawking in "The Story of Everything." Participants argue that true "nothing" cannot exist within the universe due to vacuum energy, which suggests that even empty space is filled with energy. The conversation also explores the nature of the universe's expansion, emphasizing that it expands into itself rather than into an external void. Key insights include the distinction between the singularity at the Big Bang and the universe's evolution post-Big Bang, as well as the philosophical implications of defining the universe.

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  • #31
Chronos said:
That is fundamental to science. Many breakthoughs in science started out as little more than a 'crazy' ideas, until someone figured out how to test it. It seems almost unfair that the one who figures out how to test a new idea is more likely to get a Nobel than the one who came up with it.

Yes I alwasy thought it was , for example, terribly unfair that someone like Ralph Alpher didnt get a Nobel prive for the CMb whereas Penzias and Wilson did. Not saying that latter didnt deserve theirs but I think you get the point.
 
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  • #32
Chronos said:
It seems almost unfair that the one who figures out how to test a new idea is more likely to get a Nobel than the one who came up with it.
It is because - as demonstrated by the popularity of physicsforums and sciforums for amateurs - ideas are a dime a dozen. It's the verifiability that gives an idea teeth.
 
  • #33
The universe is composed of MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, AND TIME. Beyond the universe is no matter, no energy, no space and no time (NOTHING). NOTHING is the key to the unified theory and needs to be studied! It is not composed of dark energy. That is what space is made of. The universe expands because as light or fields (e.g., gravitational, electromagnetic, etc) travels it creates space and time and is also energy and matter. Beyond where the universe's light/fields has expanded is NOTHING.

The unifying thread to Matter, Energy, Space and Time is Nothing. Matter, Energy Space and time are linked inseparable from each other.You can not have matter without space and time. You can not have space without matter, energy and time. But you can have Nothing only without matter, energy, space and time. E=MC^2

The study of Nothing needs to be pursued. It is the missing key to understanding everything.
 
  • #34
nowhereman said:
The universe is composed of MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, AND TIME. Beyond the universe is no matter, no energy, no space and no time (NOTHING). NOTHING is the key to the unified theory and needs to be studied! It is not composed of dark energy. That is what space is made of. The universe expands because as light or fields (e.g., gravitational, electromagnetic, etc) travels it creates space and time and is also energy and matter. Beyond where the universe's light/fields has expanded is NOTHING.

The unifying thread to Matter, Energy, Space and Time is Nothing. Matter, Energy Space and time are linked inseparable from each other.You can not have matter without space and time. You can not have space without matter, energy and time. But you can have Nothing only without matter, energy, space and time. E=MC^2

The study of Nothing needs to be pursued. It is the missing key to understanding everything.

...What? I don't think you understand what it means that the universe is expanding. The universe doesn't have a boundary, it's that the space in between galaxies expands, increasing the distance in between everything. There isn't anything known as 'Nothing'.
 
  • #35
nowhereman said:
The universe is composed of MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, AND TIME. Beyond the universe is no matter, no energy, no space and no time (NOTHING). NOTHING is the key to the unified theory and needs to be studied! It is not composed of dark energy. That is what space is made of. The universe expands because as light or fields (e.g., gravitational, electromagnetic, etc) travels it creates space and time and is also energy and matter. Beyond where the universe's light/fields has expanded is NOTHING.

The unifying thread to Matter, Energy, Space and Time is Nothing. Matter, Energy Space and time are linked inseparable from each other.You can not have matter without space and time. You can not have space without matter, energy and time. But you can have Nothing only without matter, energy, space and time. E=MC^2

The study of Nothing needs to be pursued. It is the missing key to understanding everything.

You would do well to read some actual physics instead of just making things up. The FAQ section here in the Cosmology subforum would be a good start.
 
  • #36
This thread is not about science. Closed.
 

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