Is the Back EMF of a Transformer a Dynamic Equilibrium?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of back electromotive force (emf) in transformers, particularly focusing on its relationship with supply voltage under different loading conditions. Participants explore whether the back emf can be considered a dynamic equilibrium and how this equilibrium is achieved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the conditions under which back emf equals supply voltage, particularly in unloaded scenarios. There are discussions on applying Kirchhoff's voltage law and the implications of ideal conditions on current flow. Some participants express curiosity about the behavior of current in relation to different inductors and the mathematical representation of these relationships.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the assumptions made regarding back emf and supply voltage. There is exploration of the implications of different circuit conditions, and some guidance is provided regarding the behavior of current in ideal scenarios. However, there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations being discussed.

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Participants note the simplifying assumptions made in the analysis, such as neglecting resistance in the primary circuit and the implications of using different inductors. The potential for infinite current increase under certain conditions is also a point of concern.

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Why the back emf of the primary coil always equal to the supply voltage but no greater than supply voltage(because of the large number of coil turns) when no loaded?Or it is a kind of dynamic equilibrium?If yes,how it reach equilibrium?

Thank you.
 
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haleycomet2 said:
Why the back emf of the primary coil always equal to the supply voltage but no greater than supply voltage(because of the large number of coil turns) when no loaded?Or it is a kind of dynamic equilibrium?If yes,how it reach equilibrium?

Thank you.

It is a simplifying assumption to assume that the back emf and supply voltage are the same.They are not exactly equal because there is a voltage drop across the resistance of the primary winding but usually this can be considered as negligible.
 
If you apply Kirchhoff's voltage law to primary of the transformer, you get the back emf equal to supply voltage. (neglecting resistance in primary circuit)
 
Under ideal condition(no resistance),since the back emf always equal to the supply voltage,then there would be no current flow through??
If different inductor(different L) is used in the circuit,does the dI/dt would be different even the supply voltage remains the same?
 
haleycomet2 said:
Under ideal condition(no resistance),since the back emf always equal to the supply voltage,then there would be no current flow through??
If different inductor(different L) is used in the circuit,does the dI/dt would be different even the supply voltage remains the same?

There would initially be no current. But dI/dt is nonzero, so current will begin to flow according to the appropriate differential equation. The current will increase without bound if there's no limiting resistance; Better make sure there's some resistance in the circuit, or something's going to go FSSST-BANG!

If you change L, then you change the magnitude of dI/dt.
 
ya,i just found it is clear when shown by differential equation.By the way, i am curious that is it possible to map out the trend of the unlimited increase of current?:smile:(let V is sin t and L is 1)
Thank you.
 
haleycomet2 said:
ya,i just found it is clear when shown by differential equation.By the way, i am curious that is it possible to map out the trend of the unlimited increase of current?:smile:(let V is sin t and L is 1)
Thank you.

The worry about infinite increase in current applies to a constant voltage supply (or at least one with a constant, nonzero DC component).

If the supply is a sinewave, v(t) sin(t), then its integral over time is finite. So no blow-up for sinewaves!
 
o...i see,thanks a lot..:approve:
 

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