How Does Magnet Position Affect EMF in a Coiled Wire System?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of a bar magnet's position on the electromotive force (EMF) generated in a coiled wire system. The setup involves a bar magnet attached to a spring, oscillating within a coil, and participants are exploring the relationship between magnetic flux and distance as the magnet moves.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how magnetic flux changes with the position of the magnet, particularly in relation to the coil's length and the magnet's oscillation. Questions arise about the shape of the flux graph and its relation to the speed of the magnet's movement.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between magnetic flux and distance, with some participants suggesting sketches to visualize these concepts. Guidance has been offered regarding the general shape of the flux graph, but there remains uncertainty about specific details and numerical values.

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Participants note the absence of numerical values for certain parameters, which complicates their ability to sketch graphs accurately. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the implications of the negative sign in Faraday's law of induction.

  • #31
sorry for the very late reply my exams are starting soon and i have to focus on my academics hope you understand

i am having some problems

so using the relation

dΦ/dt = dΦ/dx *dx/dt
dx/dt = v
i decided to express v of x
so it is
v = w√(A2 - x^2)
so the graphs looked like this

upload_2017-8-1_22-17-59.png

hence the final dΦ/dt turned to look like this
upload_2017-8-1_22-21-26.png

in other words a damped oscillation
but i am not understanding this
there is a certain level of symetry in the problem in that after every oscillation the emf should be the same at the same position as the before oscillation but in this sketch it seems to suggest that the emf would never reach the same value again as time progresses
 
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  • #32
I'm not following what you did here. You have ##\varepsilon = - \frac{d \Phi}{dt} = -\frac{d \Phi}{dx} \frac{dx}{dt}##.

From post #21 you have that ##\frac{d \Phi}{dx}## is linear in ##x## with a negative slope (for small oscillations). So, it can be written ##\frac{d \Phi}{dx} = -b x##, where ##b## is some positive number. I don't see a way to determine a value for ##b## from the data given in the problem.

So, ##\varepsilon = -\frac{d \Phi}{dx} \frac{dx}{dt} = bxv##. Or, as a function of time, you have ##\varepsilon (t)= bx(t)v(t)##. You already have expressions for ##v(t)## and ##x(t)##.
 
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  • #33
oh sorry i used phi(x) instead of dphi/dx i will try again
thanks for the fast reply
 
  • #34
ok since v(t) is cosine and x(t) is -sine they both have same frequencies
v*x = -1/2sin 2w scaled uo by a factor of b
 
  • #35
Yes. The frequency of the emf is twice the frequency of the oscillation of the magnet.
 
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  • #36
ok now the last part of the question there are 5 options i eliminated two of them

qn)which of the following is true?

1)the magnitude of the emf is maximum only when the force is zero

2)the magnitude of the force is zero only when the magnitude of the force is maximum.

3)none of the above

which one is it both seem to be correct
 

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