Is the Basic Series Comparison Test Applicable for Sum(n^(1/2)/(n^2+1),n,1,inf)?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+1}}\) and the applicability of the Basic Series Comparison Test. Participants explore whether this series can be compared to known convergent series, particularly p-series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question the validity of the original poster's reasoning regarding convergence and suggest comparing the series to a known convergent p-series, such as \(\frac{1}{n^{3/2}}\). Others express uncertainty about the clarity of the original question and the comparisons made.

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Participants are actively discussing the convergence of the series and exploring different comparison strategies. Some have provided guidance on using appropriate convergent series for comparison, while others are clarifying misunderstandings regarding the conditions for applying the comparison test.

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There is some confusion regarding the terms used in the series and the comparisons made, with participants noting discrepancies in the original problem statement. Additionally, the discussion includes references to the limitations of certain convergence statements and the need for careful application of comparison tests.

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14. sum(n^(1/2)/(n^2+1),n,1,inf)

b=n^(1/2)/(n^2+2)<=n^(1/2)/(n^2+1)=a
b is conv since lim as n-> inf b = 0 since n^(1/2)<n^2+2 for x>=1 thus a is conv
i have a feeling this is a shakey way to do this if its even correct someone pleae clarify the solution to this problem
 
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Are you sure that n1/2/(n2 + 1) is convergent? This is not a standard series that someone would use for comparison.

Why not compare your series with one that is known to converge, namely n1/2/n2 = 1/n3/2? This is a term from a convergent p-series.
 
I'm not completely positive that I understand your question.

Firstly I assume the series in question is [tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+1}}.[/tex]

You seem to be making a couple of statements thereafter that I may have misinterpreted (please correct me if I am wrong). I believe your reasoning is incorrect.

A few comments. All of the following statements about series are FALSE!

[tex]\text{If }\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}b_n=0\text{ then }\sum_{n=0}^\infty{b_n}\text{ converges}.[/tex]

[tex]\text{If }0\leq b_n \leq a_n\text{ for all }n\text{ then }\sum_{n=0}^\infty{a_n}\text{ converges if }\sum_{n=0}^\infty{b_n}\text{ converges}.[/tex]

[tex]\text{If }0\leq a_n<b_n\text{ for all }n\text{ then }\sum_{n=0}^\infty{\frac{a_n}{b_n}}\text{ converges}.[/tex]

This series can be shown to be convergent using the Comparison Test (or Limit Comparison Test) to an appropriate convergent p-series.

--Elucidus
 
nameVoid is unclear in his question. The problem as stated lists
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+1}}.[/tex]
but the following work also lists
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+2}}[/tex]
in the comparison.

I think he wants to show that the first series above is convergent.
 
Mark44 said:
nameVoid is unclear in his question. The problem as stated lists
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+1}}.[/tex]
but the following work also lists
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{\sqrt{n}}{n^2+2}}[/tex]
in the comparison.

I think he wants to show that the first series above is convergent.

This is what I suspect. The reasoning that follows looks off and may have fallen to one of the non-facts in my previous post.

Your comment about comapring to [itex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{n^{3/2}}[/itex] is sound advice. The integral test would also work, but leads to a recalcitrant integral.

--Elucidus
 
the series converges because the second integral 1/n^(3/2) converges and is greater than first n^(1/2)/(n^2+1) correct me if I am wrong here but
if b converges and a<=b a must also converge
if b diverges and a>=b then a also must diverge
 
nameVoid said:
the series converges because the second integral 1/n^(3/2) converges and is greater than first n^(1/2)/(n^2+1) correct me if I am wrong here but
if b converges and a<=b a must also converge
if b diverges and a>=b then a also must diverge
Yes, sort of, but you're leaving out some important details and mangling a few things. What you want to say is this:
an = n1/2/(n2 + 1) <= 1/n3/2 = bn for all n >= 1.
[itex]\sum b_n[/itex] is a convergent p-series.[/itex]
Therefore [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges as well.

For your last two statements, you are omitting some important information, such as that the series involved have to consist of nonnegative terms, and that you are talking about terms in infinite series.
 
thank you.
how about this next case
sum((2+cosn)/n^2,n,1,inf)
sum(2/n^2,n,1,inf)+sum(cosn/n^2,n,1,inf)>=1/n^2 which is a convergent p series
the book states here to use the basic comparison tests yet they tell me nothing here is there a way to chose a series such that it is greater than the first
 
1 <= 2 + cos(n) <= 3 for all n

Can you find a convergent p-series whose terms are all larger than those of your series?

Hint: if [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] is a convergent series, then so is [itex]\sum k a_n[/itex], where k is a constant. If the first series converges to a, the second converges to ka.
 
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nice, (2+cosn)/n^2<3/n^2
3/n^2 is a convergent p series thus (2+cosn)/n^2 is also convergent
 

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