Is the Derivative of a Linear Function the Same as the Function Itself?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of the derivative of linear functions, particularly whether the derivative can be considered the same as the function itself. Participants explore the definitions and implications of derivatives in the context of linear functions versus other types of functions, such as exponential functions.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the assertion that the derivative of a linear function is the function itself, citing that the derivative of an exponential function is the function itself instead.
  • Another participant suggests that there may be confusion between the terms "derivative" and "differential," arguing that the differential is the linear map that approximates changes in a function, while the derivative of a linear function is not the function itself.
  • A different viewpoint states that the derivative of a linear function is simply its slope, which is a constant, and thus not a function in the same sense as the original function.
  • One participant reiterates the need to view the derivative as a mapping rather than a direct equivalence to the function.
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between the derivative as an operator and the differential, suggesting that the terminology used may lead to misunderstandings.
  • A later reply acknowledges an initial misunderstanding regarding the terminology used in a reference text, clarifying that the total derivative of a linear function is indeed the function itself, but this differs from the simple derivative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the derivative and the function itself, with no consensus reached. Some argue for a distinction between derivatives and differentials, while others highlight the confusion arising from terminology.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is complicated by the use of terms like "derivative" and "differential," which may not be consistently defined across different contexts. There is also mention of specific references that may clarify or complicate the understanding of these concepts.

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Given that the derivative of a linear function is the function itself, how do I make sense of the following:
Given f(x) = x. It's derivative is g(x) = f'(x) = 1. Is g(x) the same as f(x) in some way? Or have I got this wrong in some way. Is f'(x) really the derivative of a f(x) in the sense of the statement that "the derivative of a linear function is the function"?
 
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Where were you "given that the derivative of a linear function is the function itself"? The derivative of an exponential function is the function itself, not a linear function.
 
I have seen this confusing treatment too, rjvsngh, and this is the best sense I have been able to make of it : I think they are conflating the terms
derivative with differential. The differential is the linear map that best approximates
(locally) the change of a (differentiable function) , so that, e.g., a line with slope
2x is the best local linear approximation to the change of f(x)=x^2 , so, by derivative,
they mean differential, and the differential (at xo) is then is y-yo=2xo(x-xo). But then,
if your function is (globally) linear to start with, then the best linear approximation, aka,
differential , is the function itself. So, the differential of a linear function L is L itself,
but the derivative of L itself is not L.
 
The derivative of a linear function is the slope of the function, m. It is a constant, rather than a function. i.e. f(x) = mx + k, f'(x) = m. So in this case, g(x) isn't a function at all, but a number.
f'(x) = g(x) is a differential equation, and therefor a whole different animal.
 
rjvsngh said:
Given that the derivative of a linear function is the function itself, how do I make sense of the following:
Given f(x) = x. It's derivative is g(x) = f'(x) = 1. Is g(x) the same as f(x) in some way? Or have I got this wrong in some way. Is f'(x) really the derivative of a f(x) in the sense of the statement that "the derivative of a linear function is the function"?

f(x) = x = 1.x

You need to view the derivative as a mapping.
 
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But this is not the standard difference between derivative as an operator or as an
element of the dual; it is an assignment of the differential , not the derivative.
 
Bacle said:
But this is not the standard difference between derivative as an operator or as an
element of the dual; it is an assignment of the differential , not the derivative.

Right, correct language would call it the differential.
 
Right, Lavinia, I wish I had known when I first ran into this layout.
 
thanks for all these explanations. following a particular reply, i did realize my question was incorrect in the usage of terms. my question originated in something i read in "Math Analysis", Apostol, 2nd ed., in the chapter on multi-variable calculus. However, looking closely, the precise statement was that "the total derivative of a linear function is the function itself" and i now realize that the total derivative as defined by Apostol and the simple derivative are different. in fact, Apostol does point this out in the text as well.

i guess the "derivative as a number" notion arises in the serendipitous (?) fact that a linear functional on R1 amounts to multiplication by a number - the number being the so-called derivative.
 

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