What Are Functions Called That Are Linearly Dependent With Their Derivatives?

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The discussion revolves around identifying functions that are linearly dependent on their derivatives, specifically exploring whether there is a specific name for such functions. The scope includes theoretical aspects of differential equations and the properties of functions in relation to their derivatives.

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  • One participant inquires about a specific name for functions that satisfy the condition of being linearly dependent with their derivatives, represented mathematically.
  • Another participant provides an example using the exponential function, suggesting that its derivatives are linearly dependent on the function itself, and presents a specific form for the coefficients.
  • A different participant categorizes functions into sets based on their order of derivatives, noting that exponential functions belong to one set, while trigonometric functions belong to another, but questions whether these functions have a specific name.
  • Another participant challenges the inclusion of polynomials in this context, arguing that their highest degree term is lost upon differentiation, and speculates that such functions may be expressible as linear combinations of exponential functions with complex arguments.
  • A summary post reiterates the initial question and suggests a potential equivalence to functions that are solutions to homogeneous linear differential equations with constant coefficients.

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Participants express differing views on the inclusion of polynomials in the set of functions being discussed, and there is no consensus on whether a specific name exists for these functions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the classification and naming of such functions.

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Participants note limitations in their definitions and assumptions, particularly regarding the nature of polynomial functions and their derivatives, as well as the potential relationship to differential equations.

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Is there a name for functions that are linearly dependent with its derivatives?
Is there a name for functions that are linearly dependent with its derivatives? i.e. a function ##f(x)## such that, for some value of ##n## it fulfills
$$f^{(n+1)} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \alpha_k f^{(k)}$$
are linearly dependent?
 
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As an example
f(x)=e^{ax}as
f^{(n+1)}(x)=a f^{(n)}(x)so
\alpha_n=a otherwise \alpha_k=0 There are other expressions, e.g.,
\alpha_k=\frac{1}{n+1}a^{n-k+1}
The component functions are all the same.
 
Yes, if we define the set ##D_k## as the set of all such functions with ##n=k-1##, then any exponential would be on ##D_1## because the first derivative is LD to the function itself, ##\sin{x}## and ##\cos{x}## would be on ##D_2## because the second derivative is LD to the function, and a polynomial with degree ##j## would be on ##D_{j+1}##. But I was asking if there is a special name given to such functions.
 
I don't think you get polynomials in this set, the top degree gets destroyed by derivatives so you can never get rid of it with a linear equation in the derivatives.

I don't know of a name for these. I suspect they are all secretly linear combinations of the exponential function with complex arguments, e.g.

$$\sin(x)=\frac{ e^{ix} - e^{-ix}}{2}.$$
 
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Summary:: Is there a name for functions that are linearly dependent with its derivatives?
Is this equivalent to asking about all functions that are solutions to some homogeneous linear differential equation with constant coefficients?
 
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