Is the DRM Debate in Vista Affecting Your PC's Performance?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of Digital Rights Management (DRM) in Windows Vista on PC performance and user experience, particularly in relation to video editing and playback quality. Participants express concerns about resource usage, hardware compatibility, and the implications of DRM on user-created content.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether certain hardware or peripherals can be disabled by Vista's new features, expressing concern about unnecessary resource consumption.
  • Another participant raises the issue of whether user-created videos will experience quality reduction when played on different machines due to DRM restrictions.
  • There is a claim that DRM may poll every 30 seconds to verify content legitimacy, potentially consuming resources even when no content is being played.
  • Some participants share experiences of difficulties in finding compatible printer drivers for Vista, suggesting a broader issue with hardware compatibility.
  • A participant mentions that if videos are created and played on the same machine, there may be no quality reduction, but playing them on another machine could lead to reduced quality.
  • Concerns are raised about the extent of content protection, including how it may affect graphics cards and monitor connections, potentially limiting hardware choices for users.
  • There is speculation about the possibility of legal challenges arising from the stringent protections associated with DRM.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the implications of DRM for performance and quality. Some share concerns about hardware limitations and compatibility, while others question the validity of claims regarding quality reduction and resource usage.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specifics of DRM implementation and its effects on hardware and software. There are references to personal experiences that highlight potential issues, but no definitive conclusions are drawn regarding the overall impact of DRM in Vista.

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I've been reading a lot about the DRM debate and am kind of left a bit confused. I could care less whether my PC can play "premium content" because I don't use my PC for that really. However, I do a lot of video editing, I tinker a lot, and I care about whether my PC is using more resources then necessary (that may seem ironic since it can be argued that Vista itself uses more than necessary). My questions are these:

1. Can certain hardware or peripherals be "turned off" for whatever reason using the new features of Vista?

2. Will videos that I create or other user created content be played at lower resolutions or run at lower performance/quality for whatever reason based on DRM or other protections?

3. I heard that this DRM stuff polls every 30 seconds to make sure whatever is being played, is legit. Is this true and does this happen even when content is NOT being played? I.E. Is it consuming resources by doing unnecessary polling when it shouldn't need to?

I read all this stuff from here: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w...-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx
 
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The hell with Microsoft, I wouldn't pay them a dime anymore, even if my life was counting on it...
The next OS that I'll install would be a Open Source...
Unfortunately for now I'm sticking with my WinXp, I'm addicted to playing video games, and seem so far there is no worthy game to be played on Open source OS...
 
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MS is just looking to make money like any other Corporation. If their product won't work for me, I won't buy it. Plain and simple. Do you know if any of that stuff is true that I asked about?
 
I'm not sure what you mean by hardware or peripherals being "turned off" but I do know that a couple of the people I work with recently got new computers with Vista installed on them, and they are having a hard time getting printer drivers for any of the printers they have. They've had some other issues that have been resolved, but finding a compatible printer is proving to be a pain for them.

I don't know anything about DRM and video stuff though. They aren't using theirs for anything like that.
 
From what I understood from friends who are using vista, if you created the Video on that machine and played it on the same machine, there would be no Quality reduction, but if played on other machine, there was some Quality reduction...
Or something like that
 
Moonbear said:
I'm not sure what you mean by hardware or peripherals being "turned off" but I do know that a couple of the people I work with recently got new computers with Vista installed on them, and they are having a hard time getting printer drivers for any of the printers they have. They've had some other issues that have been resolved, but finding a compatible printer is proving to be a pain for them.

I don't know anything about DRM and video stuff though. They aren't using theirs for anything like that.

The printer thing also happened with XP. That shouldn't be an issue but not exactly a serious problem.

One example of what I was talking about was of one person who bought 2 widescreen CRTs costing over $2000 but since the monitors didn't support High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP), none of his HD-DVD or Blu-ray discs played at full quality.

This same "content protection" extends to the graphics card as well and the types of connections that you use for monitors. If the card doesn't support it or if the software thinks that connection is being used for piracy, it either won't play or play at a lower quality.

This is what I mean by "turn off." Because this same "protection" extends to monitors, drivers, your sound card, video card, etc. What I am wondering is if this allows them to decide what hardware you can and can't have on your own PC. If it extends so far as to limit what hardware and software I want to have on my own PC than there is no way I am upgrading. And any new PC I would buy would have linux as a second OS.

ziad1985 said:
From what I understood from friends who are using vista, if you created the Video on that machine and played it on the same machine, there would be no Quality reduction, but if played on other machine, there was some Quality reduction...
Or something like that

Well that also sucks and better not be true. I want my home videos to be played at full quality no matter what PC it is running on.
 
GTdan said:
One example of what I was talking about was of one person who bought 2 widescreen CRTs costing over $2000 but since the monitors didn't support High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP), none of his HD-DVD or Blu-ray discs played at full quality.

This same "content protection" extends to the graphics card as well and the types of connections that you use for monitors. If the card doesn't support it or if the software thinks that connection is being used for piracy, it either won't play or play at a lower quality.

This is what I mean by "turn off." Because this same "protection" extends to monitors, drivers, your sound card, video card, etc. What I am wondering is if this allows them to decide what hardware you can and can't have on your own PC. If it extends so far as to limit what hardware and software I want to have on my own PC than there is no way I am upgrading. And any new PC I would buy would have linux as a second OS.



Well that also sucks and better not be true. I want my home videos to be played at full quality no matter what PC it is running on.
I don't know but I feel lawsuits wouldn't be a stranger with such flawless protection around.
 
ziad1985 said:
I don't know but I feel lawsuits wouldn't be a stranger with such flawless protection around.

Maybe. I wish someone knew for sure how extensive this protection is though.
 

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