Is the Force Operator in Quantum Mechanics Always Time-Independent?

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The discussion revolves around the force operator in quantum mechanics, specifically its representation in the Heisenberg picture and the implications of its time dependence. Participants are examining the conditions under which the force operator is considered time-independent.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the assumption that the force operator is always time-independent and discussing the implications of the time derivative term in its definition. There is also a debate about whether the second term should involve the derivative of momentum instead of the force operator itself.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants clarifying points about the nature of the force operator and its dependence on time. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the terms involved in the force operator's definition.

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Participants are navigating the nuances of quantum mechanics definitions and the implications of time dependence in operators, which may be influenced by specific assumptions or interpretations within the framework of quantum theory.

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Hi

In QM we define the force operator F as (in the Heisenberg picture)
[tex] F = \frac{1}{i\hbar}[p, H] + (d_t F)(t)[/tex]
What I can't understand is that usually (actually, always) we write
[tex] F = \frac{1}{i\hbar}[p, H][/tex]
and neglegt the last time derivative. How can we be so certain that the force is time-independent?Niles.
 
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Niles said:

Homework Statement


Hi

In QM we define the force operator F as (in the Heisenberg picture)
[tex] F = \frac{1}{i\hbar}[p, H] + (d_t F)(t)[/tex]
Shouldn't the second term be the derivative of p, not F?
What I can't understand is that usually (actually, always) we write
[tex] F = \frac{1}{i\hbar}[p, H][/tex]
and neglegt the last time derivative. How can we be so certain that the force is time-independent?


Niles.
 
You are right, it is the derivative of p. But the velocity is not necessarily time-independent?
 
You're looking about the derivative of the operator itself, not the derivative of the momentum of the particle. Second, ∂p/∂t ≠ 0 only if the operator has an explicit time dependence.
 
You are right, thanks for that. In that case it is obvious that the last term is zero.Niles.
 

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