Is the Function y=x^3 Monotonic at x=0?

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The discussion revolves around the monotonicity of the function y=x^3 at the point x=0. Participants explore the implications of the derivative being zero at this point and question the definitions of monotonic and strictly monotonic functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants attempt to analyze the behavior of the derivative y' and its implications for monotonicity, questioning why a zero derivative at x=0 does not preclude the function from being strictly increasing elsewhere.
  • Others raise questions about the definitions of monotonicity and the conditions under which a function can be considered strictly monotonic.
  • There are discussions about the implications of isolated points where the derivative is zero and the continuity of the function.
  • Some participants introduce theorems related to monotonic functions and their inverses, prompting further examination of these concepts.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and counterexamples related to the definitions and properties of monotonic functions. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, particularly concerning the implications of the derivative at x=0 and the continuity of the function.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of monotonicity and the behavior of derivatives, particularly in the context of isolated points and continuity. There is mention of theorems regarding strictly monotonic functions and their inverses, which may not align with the examples being discussed.

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Homework Statement


y=x^3 is it monotonic in 0?

The Attempt at a Solution


if i try to solve y'>0 it will be 0 in point x=0 so that function is not strictly decreasing in 0 but in other way we have x_1<x_2\Rightarrow f(x_1)<f(x_2) so it is scrictly decreasing, its paradox, why?
 
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Why is y' = 0 not allowed for a stricly increasing function?
Isn't x_1 < x_2 \implies f(x_1) \le f(x_2) the definition of monotonic (or strictly monotonic, if you replace the equality by a strict equality)?
 
player1_1_1 said:

Homework Statement


y=x^3 is it monotonic in 0?

The Attempt at a Solution


if i try to solve y'>0 it will be 0 in point x=0 so that function is not strictly decreasing in 0 but in other way we have x_1<x_2\Rightarrow f(x_1)<f(x_2) so it is scrictly decreasing, its paradox, why?

Plug in a value before 0 and after 0 in y'=3x^2. You'll see that y' is strictly positive for all real values except 0, where the slope is zero. So it follows that this is neither a minimum nor maximum, and 0 is the only point that has slope zero. We also know that y is a continuous function, so y must be strictly increasing, i.e. monotone.
 
so generally if x_0 is isolated point where derivative is 0 and its positive around this function can be strictly monotonic there yeah? and what about this theorem what i found? if function is scrictly monotonic in every point then function then inverse function has derivative in any point, but function y=\sqrt[3]{x} doesn't have derivative in 0, why?
 
Because the derivative of the function is not defined at x=0. The best you can hope for is a limit.
 
player1_1_1 said:
and what about this theorem what i found? if function is scrictly monotonic in every point then function then inverse function has derivative in any point

Either you have misunderstood something about the statement of the theorem, or it is just wrong.

Counter example:
f(x) = -1 + x when x < 0
f(x) = 0 when x = 0
f(x) = 1 + x when x > 0
f(x) is strictly increasing, but you can't even define a limit of f^-1(0), let alone a derivative, because f^-1(x) is not defined when -1 < x < 0 and 0 < x < 1
 
a^3- b^3= (a- b)(a^2+ ab+ b^2)= (a- b)((a^2+ ab+ b^2/4)+ (3/4)b^2)= (a-b)((a+b/2)^2+ 3/4 b^2)

Since a^2+ ab+ b^2 is the sum of two squares it is never negative and a^3- b^3 is positive if and only if a- b is.
 

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