Is the Latest Star Wars Movie Worth an Immediate Watch?

In summary: To give us a better idea of what kind of movie you like, can you give a brief description of why you hated episodes 1 and 2? Lack of plot? Lack of action? Stupid plot? Too much time spent on insignificant events (1 hour pod race)?Do you like movies that are driven by characters, action, or plot?
  • #36
monique, please tell me what happens after Tae-suk is taken to jail.. I am not going to watch it anyway, so it doesn't matter if you spoil it..
 
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  • #37
Evo said:
What I loved about the first Star Wars film was the humor. I didn't like any of the sequels.
Chewbacca is a space-zoobie.
 
  • #38
arildno said:
The character of Han Solo is definitely my favourite from the original movies.
Harrison Ford brings into them a vitality sorely lacking in the prequels.

But, you were perhaps thinking equally of C-3PO?
Han Solo was great. :approve: I loved it when he shot Greedo in the cantina. C-3PO had great comic lines, but there was subtle humor throughout the movie, like when Obi Wan was manipulating the mind of the storm trooper when they were being looked for in Mos Eisley.
 
  • #39
Monique said:
I am a bit tired of all these star wars movies or any movie that has a plot around fighting a war. I rather spend my money on independent movies, the other week I watched Bin-Jip.. something original.

I highly recommend Hitch. Funny, date movie. Will Smith's great in it.

It's not independent though.
 
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  • #40
Evo said:
Han Solo was great. :approve: I loved it when he shot Greedo in the cantina.
Ah yes, except that he doesn't shoot Greedo in Lucas' "Special Edition" version of the movie (well, he does, but he doesn't get to shoot first, so the effect is lost). That was just one of many scenes Lucas managed to ruin with the special edition. And to think that the ORIGINAL trilogy may never be released on DVD. :frown:
 
  • #41
jma2001 said:
Ah yes, except that he doesn't shoot Greedo in Lucas' "Special Edition" version of the movie (well, he does, but he doesn't get to shoot first, so the effect is lost). That was just one of many scenes Lucas managed to ruin with the special edition. And to think that the ORIGINAL trilogy may never be released on DVD. :frown:
I read about that. I can't believe he did that, it ruins the whole scene.

It reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones when the guy starts making all those fancy moves with the sword and Indy pulls out his gun and shoots him. :approve:
 
  • #42
jma2001 said:
Ah yes, except that he doesn't shoot Greedo in Lucas' "Special Edition" version of the movie (well, he does, but he doesn't get to shoot first, so the effect is lost). That was just one of many scenes Lucas managed to ruin with the special edition. And to think that the ORIGINAL trilogy may never be released on DVD. :frown:
Which is why I prize my SVHS copies of this movie! I'll eventually get these onto the computer before the last SVHS VCR I'll ever own breaks :approve:
 
  • #43
klusener said:
monique, please tell me what happens after Tae-suk is taken to jail.. I am not going to watch it anyway, so it doesn't matter if you spoil it..
Why not? The part in jail and the time after that are most fun to watch.
 
  • #44
Evo said:
I read about that. I can't believe he did that, it ruins the whole scene.

It reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones when the guy starts making all those fancy moves with the sword and Indy pulls out his gun and shoots him. :approve:

Funny you should mention that scene. I saw a special on "the making of.." and they were talking about that scene. I guess originally Harrison was supposed to have this elaborate duel with the guy, so they spent weeks and weeks practicing and rehearse the scene, and at the last moment they decided to just pull out his gun and shoot him for comic effect- which was hilarious actually. I guess the sword guy was really pissed.
 
  • #45
Zantra said:
I guess the sword guy was really pissed.
That was one of the all time best movie fights. There's a scene reminiscent of it in one of the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns. Two guys faced off with guns. One guy starts to give one of those "dramatic" speeches, aimed at undermining the other's nerve. Second guy just pulls the trigger. First, talkative, guy falls dead. Second guy says to the corpse: "If you're going to shoot somebody, shoot! Don't talk!"
 
  • #47
i liked all of the starwars movies. i really like big epic movies with huge battles and fancy moves. i think the originals would have been like 123 with huge battles and crazy effects but they couldn't be done like that back then. its kind of weird though watching the old ones after the new ones because the differences in fighting styles. the new ones have insane quick swinging lightsaber attacks and flips while the old movies have slow swings like a medievil movie or something. this is kinda like a plothole i guess because you would think vader got stronger over the years instead of having weak slow attacks lol. not to mention vader nor the emperor used the force choke/throw much in the old movies
 
  • #48
Films seem condemned to reflect the time at which they are made, not the time which they are about.
 
  • #49
how come that small robot C-2PC whatever can fly and later does not ?
 
  • #50
cos he ran out of fuel and nobody thought to fill him up, just watched the film and its a damn good film, just as long as you don't analyse every single line and facial expression like most critics seem to.
 
  • #51
Andy said:
cos he ran out of fuel and nobody thought to fill him up, just watched the film and its a damn good film, just as long as you don't analyse every single line and facial expression like most critics seem to.
Glad you liked it! (I'm seeing it on Tuesday..)

But:
What are film critics to do?
They have to seem inexpendable, otherwise they wouldn't keep their job for long..
 
  • #52
Evo said:
I read about that. I can't believe he did that, it ruins the whole scene.

It reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones when the guy starts making all those fancy moves with the sword and Indy pulls out his gun and shoots him. :approve:

That part wasn't in the script. HArisson wasn't feeling well that day and couldn't do the fight scene that they had planned. So they had him just shoot the guy. It turned out to be an Indiana Jones classic. He tries it in the third movie but is out of bullets.
 
  • #53
I like the third episode of Star Wars. R2 is the best. He actually kicks some butt in this movie. Never leave home without an R2 unit.

The story line seems decent in this movie. It doesn't drag much like the other two. It does seem to become a little overdone in the middle. Palpatine and Obi Wan and R2 are my favorite characters in this movie. There is action and lightsaber battles all over the place. They are pretty good except for a few scenes. I seem to remember laughing at Palpy ... well nevermind. The fall of Anakin doesn't seem completely believable to me. They could have spent more time on that and less on the action and probably had a better all around movie. I'd give it 4/5.

I wonder if this will be the last Star Wars movie. There is a gap at the end of Episode 3 and the old Star Wars movies. Chewbacca has a scene in Episode3 but there is no Han Solo. There could be something there and there is room in the timeline for it to happen.
 
  • #54
The physics in this movie are a disaster. Especially the first 20 minutes with the battle in space.

Other than that, I thought it was great. My favorite scene is when yoda walks into see the chancellor and just waves those two guards off and they fall immediately.
 
  • #55
whozum said:
The physics in this movie are a disaster.
Fortunately, though, the midichlorians are good biology. :approve:
 
  • #56
don't you mean "mitochondria"? I think that's what lucas meant.

re: revenge of the seth my opinion counts for nothing, because I'm a closet star wars geek. that means i know all the stuff but don't dress up. i think if i did it would be as kit fisto, that green squid-lookin jedi with the bug-eyes who never talks. i have to agree with most people & say tpm sucked. (one of them has to be the worst!)
 
  • #57
fourier jr said:
don't you mean "mitochondria"? I think that's what lucas meant.
Yet another joke of mine falling down in the abyss never to have inspired even the merest smile... :cry:
 
  • #58
whozum said:
The physics in this movie are a disaster. Especially the first 20 minutes with the battle in space.

The battle actually took place in the upper reaches of the Coruscant atmosphere. Lucas did that on purpose, as it allowed him to add a lot of fire to the action.
 
  • #59
arildno said:
Yet another joke of mine falling down in the abyss never to have inspired even the merest smile... :cry:

Here's what Lucas himself had to say about midi-chlorians:

"Midi-chlorians are a loose depiction of mitochondria, which are necessary components for cells to divide. They probably had something--which will come out someday--to do with the beginnings of life and how one cell decided to become two cells with a little help from this other little creature who came in, without whom life couldn't exist. And it's really a way of saying we have hundreds of little creatures who live on us, and without them, we all would die. There wouldn't be any life. They are necessary for us; we are necessary for them. Using them in the metaphor, saying society is the same way, says we all must get along with each other."
 
  • #60
Feel free to think that carriers of The Force is good biology.
 
  • #61
I enjoyed it. I don't think it's very likely we will see very many movies out there made on par with the original Star Wars movies so I'm not going to be too depressed that these didn't come out that great.
There is a funny scene that looks as though it intentionally utilized the technology difference between the new and old movies as a device.
It's just the shuttle bay with these really advanced looking robots wandering around in the background and then R2D2 and C3PO stumble off the shuttle into the scene. Very cute.
 
  • #62
I loved the movie. But the guy who played Anakin brought the movie down. Although he did a better job than the one he did in AoTC. He totally ruined that movie. The actor who played little Anakin totally ruined TPM along with Jar-Jar. I always pictured Anakin as being this 7ft tall bad-ass that rips all the Jedi's a new *******. Oh well, movie was still great.

ESB is still my favorite, this movie almost ties with RoTJ as my second favorite.
 
  • #63
I see that this movie was more well received than the first 2 for sure :biggrin:

I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born...

Someone here mentioned the time in between RoTS and A New Hope - I'm thinking it was about 20 years based on Luke and Lea's ages. That's why you see Chewy but no Han Solo. Lucas actually could make another movie to fill the 20 year time span, call it "Star Wars 3 1/2 - Empire Building" :devil:
 
  • #64
ShadowKnight said:
I see that this movie was more well received than the first 2 for sure :biggrin:

I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born...

I think that's fairly easy, even though I might be wrong, since I haven't read any of the books or looked closely into the mythology.

The whole idea of ROTS is the demise of democracy in the galaxy, and its replacement by an absolute monarchy. The absolute ruler is the Emperor, and I'm sure there have to be local or regional rulers, in the guise of Kings/Queens, Princes and Princesses. It is most likely that Leia, either by coincidence, some strength of her character (noble blood) or perhaps even rumors of her past rose to the status of a local ruler in her region of Alderaan. Why Alderaan ? Because Bail Organa's homeworld is there, so Leia grew up there.

Remember that if the Emperor or Vader had known about Leia's ancestry, they would have at the least prevented her rise to power, more likely they'd have tried to turn her to get to Luke or kill her if she'd refused. But Vader didn't know, recall that scene in Return of the Jedi where Vader reads Luke's emotions to learn of "Sister Leia". In fact, prior to this, even when Leia was a prisoner (after she was taunted and her homeworld was destroyed in front of her eyes), she was being used as an incidental political pawn. not as bait for her brother.

Clearer now ? :smile:

Someone here mentioned the time in between RoTS and A New Hope - I'm thinking it was about 20 years based on Luke and Lea's ages. That's why you see Chewy but no Han Solo. Lucas actually could make another movie to fill the 20 year time span, call it "Star Wars 3 1/2 - Empire Building" :devil:

I understand Lucas is planning a TV series to fill the gap.
 
  • #65
Yeah, that would be a tv series I would watch. Don't know who they would use to play the role of Harrison Ford though. He's like an icon of Han Solo. Anyone else will be substandard, but Harrison is too old now.

Don't forget Boba Fett. In the second movie his father Jenga Fett is killed and little Boba picks up his father's helmet. That's heavy movie symbolism. I can see Boba and the Hutts being arch enemies of Han Solo and Chewbacca in a tv series.

I wasn't too concerned about how they wrapped up the plot between the old movies and the new ones. I kind of had that figured before I went to see the movie. The quetion that I found much more interesting was 'How the hell do those astromech droids get out of those small ships?' In the second movie a mechanism lowers R2 from a ship. In the third movie he pops right out and lands on his ... feet? I found it extremely unpractical, but humorous.
 
  • #66
I saw the movie on Friday.

I was _very_ pleased.

I was even able to suspend disbelief of the horrendous physics of the starship crashing on the planet in the beginning.
 
  • #67
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
 
  • #68
dduardo said:
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
I caught that too. I think that was a significant jump forward in the timeline. I like the way they recreated the bridge of the Star Destroyer from A New Hope for that scene.
 
  • #69
ShadowKnight said:
I thought of a [minor] plot problem for those of you who are real Star Wars fans - if Lea was adopted by a Senator how did she become a princess? I know her real mom was at one point a queen BUT Lea doesn't know that and Padme was also a Senator when Lea was born..
Lea knew in ROTJ that her parents weren't her real parents. I guess it stands to reason then that she did know her real mom was a queen. However, that would make her real identity a pretty tough secret to keep. But who knows - maybe her father was a king before he was a senator.
 
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  • #70
dduardo said:
Was it me or did the Death Star look too complete at the end of EP3. It didn't take nearly as long to get the second death star done in EP6.
Well, it was only a frame, but yeah - it couldn't have been more than 5 years from EP4-EP6 and they pretty much built the entire 2nd death star. It shouldn't have taken the ~17 years from ep3 to ep4 to build the first. Other things, too - if Capt. Antilles (sp?) was already a captain at the end of ep3 when he got custody of the drones, he must have been a dismal failure to still be a captain 17 years later...

I'm guessing Obi Wan was ~35 at the end of ep3 - for ep4 he looks about 60. He didn't age well and he lost (or at least didn't use) some of his powers in ep4.

And Yoda - for someone who was still pretty spry at 883 years old, to die at 900 seems a little young.
 
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